Comments on Ambassador Watch: "Crazy Yisrayl Hawkins Day"

"said" didn't mean "in the book of" to Matthew. It...

2008-06-18T02:35:00.000+12:00

"said" didn't mean "in the book of" to Matthew. It was not an oral tradition. It was said in the book.

Excuse...SAID didn't just mean it wasn't quotable in the book

17Then what was said through the prophet Jeremiah ...

2008-06-18T02:34:00.000+12:00

17Then what was said through the prophet Jeremiah was fulfilled:
18"A voice is heard in Ramah,
weeping and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children
and refusing to becomforted,
because they are no more.'

"said" didn't mean "in the book of" to Matthew. It was not an oral tradition. It was said in the book.

"for this is what the prophet has written:
6" 'But you, Bethlehem, in the land of Judah,
are by no means least among the rulers of Judah;
for out of you will come a ruler
who will be the shepherd of my people Israel.'

In the same chapter, Matthew 2 we find that prophets both write and say what is in their books and can be quoted.

If it's an oral tradition strung out over 2400 years, it's hearsay anyway. What oral tradition from your family can you quote from that far back?

Re 30 pieces of silver. Note that Matthew writes t...

2008-06-16T23:16:00.000+12:00

Re 30 pieces of silver.

Note that Matthew writes that this prophecy was SPOKEN by Jeremiah, not 'by the word of...' etc. It was passed down orally.

'...Then was fulfilled that spoken through Jeremiah the prophet, saying, And I took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of Him who had been priced, on whom they of the sons of Israel set a price...'

Anonymous said, "Tom is such a Dick"Yes, but we wo...

2008-06-16T12:25:00.000+12:00

Anonymous said, "Tom is such a Dick"

Yes, but we won't know if it's Harry until Tom posts his picture as promised.

Texas Monthly Magazine had an article on Hawkins i...

2008-06-16T10:40:00.001+12:00

Texas Monthly Magazine had an article on Hawkins in their July 1997 issue. At that time the world was to end in three years. The article can be found on their website, TexasMonthly.com.

Another reason to doubt Matthew's potter's field s...

2008-06-16T10:40:00.000+12:00

Another reason to doubt Matthew's potter's field story comes from the Hebrew word for paymaster or treasurer: "atsar", which is suspiciously close in spelling to "yatsar", the Hebrew word for potter.

It's not hard to imagine that Zechariah's words were incorrectly transcribed, because it makes far more sense for an man insulted by his low wages to toss them back at the paymaster than for him to cast them to a potter. The editors of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) of the Bible probably got it right when they translated it as "treasury".

So, if there never was a potter in Zechariah's story, then Matthew probably made up the whole thing.

Even more interesting about the "hireling" Judas ...

2008-06-16T10:31:00.000+12:00

Even more interesting about the "hireling" Judas was that Matthew totally screwed up what he thought was an OT prophecy about him.

The author of the Bible's book of
Matthew believes that the prophet
Jeremiah prophesied that blood
money paid to Judas would be used
to purchase a potter's field. In fact,
there is no such prophecy in
Jeremiah; the closest thing to such
a prophecy is instead found in the
book by Zechariah.

The closest match to the words in Matthew's prophecy-fulfillment claim are found in Zechariah, not Jeremiah ("Jeremy"), as Matthew claimed:

And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter (Hebrew: yatsar) in the house of the LORD. (Zechariah 11:12-13)

The Zechariah passage above is almost certainly the one Matthew had in mind, because it is the only place in the Old Testament where a potter is given silver, and it's also the only passage which parallels the valuing of a man's work at thirty pieces of silver, the blood money received by Judas for turning over Jesus.

Unfortunately for those who believe the Bible is without error, the Zechariah story concerns a shepherd being insulted by low wages and throwing them contemptuously at a potter; it has nothing to do with a potter selling a field; there's no field, and nobody sold anything. Thus, the Zechariah story clearly is not a prefigurement of priests purchasing a potter's field with Judas' blood money; Matthew was mistaken.

The whole story of "Judas" is a NT construct to disparage the Christ killing Jews. "Matthew" tried to construct a story of betryal from the OT and screw it up.

"How come every time you show up this place turns into a bathroom grafitti wall? Do you have that effect everywhere you go???"

That's hilarious!

Tom,How come every time you show up this place tur...

2008-06-16T10:16:00.000+12:00

Tom,

How come every time you show up this place turns into a bathroom grafitti wall? Do you have that effect everywhere you go???

Tom Mahon said, "For in spite of the fact that the...

2008-06-16T09:23:00.000+12:00

Tom Mahon said, "For in spite of the fact that the hirelings betrayed God's flock for less than 30 pieces of silver,"

Wrong again Tom!

Even if you assume 2 ounces of silver per piece of silver, that is 60 ounces of silver, or roughly $1,000 in 1990s prices.

God's flock was betrayed for a lot more than 30 pieces of silver.

Get it right Tom. And, while your at it Tom, get another haircut and post your picture on the internet as you promised. TIME IS SHORT.

Tom is such a Dick

2008-06-16T08:01:00.000+12:00

Tom is such a Dick

Tom Mahon said, "I shall now return to Mizpah and ...

2008-06-16T03:01:00.000+12:00

Tom Mahon said, "I shall now return to Mizpah and watch and pray, that I may be counted worthy to escape those things that shall come to pass,and stand before the son on man".

MY COMMENT - Thanks for the good laugh, Tom. You are such a comic!

The only thing you are worthy to escape is posting yur picture on the internet as you promised you would several months ago!

Richard

Tom proclaimeth: "I shall now return to Mizpah and...

2008-06-16T02:41:00.000+12:00

Tom proclaimeth: "I shall now return to Mizpah and watch and pray, that I may be counted worthy to escape those things that shall come to pass,and stand before the son on man."

Tom, I can hear you patting yourself on the back all the way across the atlantic.

Ambassador Mizpah said...>>>BTW "Mizpah" actually ...

2008-06-16T00:42:00.000+12:00

Ambassador Mizpah said...

>>>BTW "Mizpah" actually means "Watch Post" so in fact, when you came to "Ambassador Watch", the COG "Watch Post", to post, you were actually coming TO Mizpah and not leaving it go to it to prepare for Pentecost..Weird huh?<<<

Actually, a better translation of Mizpah is Watch Tower. Even though is was and probably still is a location in Israel, in ancient times, it was a location where reliable men of courage were posted to keep watch for the approaching enemies of God's chosen people. But today it is metaphor for all Christians to watch that neither they nor his brothers are taken captive by the devil.

For in spite of the fact that the hirelings betrayed God's flock for less than 30 pieces of silver, and the phrase, "every man for himself" is often proclaimed with enthusiasm, genuine Christians still understand that they are their brother's keeper, and are required to lay down their lives for one another; not sell one another for "the mammon of unrighteousness."

I shall now return to Mizpah and watch and pray, that I may be counted worthy to escape those things that shall come to pass,and stand before the son on man.

oops, just a human here..."I must go to MIZPAH to ...

2008-06-15T11:42:00.000+12:00

oops, just a human here..."I must go to MIZPAH to prepare for Pentecost"

Thomas:For someone who said "I must go to Mizah an...

2008-06-15T11:41:00.000+12:00

Thomas:

For someone who said "I must go to Mizah and prepare for Pentecost" you should have something more meaningful and encouraging to say here on the Sabbath if you're going to stop in for a visit.

BTW "Mizpah" actually means "Watch Post" so in fact, when you came to "Ambassador Watch", the COG "Watch Post", to post, you were actually coming TO Mizpah and not leaving it go to it to prepare for Pentecost..Weird huh? God moves in mysterious ways.

SILHOUTTE CITY-A nonfiction cinematic essay tracki...

2008-06-15T02:36:00.000+12:00

SILHOUTTE CITY-

A nonfiction cinematic essay tracking the movement of apocalytic christian nationalism from the margins to the mainstream.

For screenings and trailor go to
http://www.silhouettecity.com/

This video was mentioned on the Military Religious Freedom website.

www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org

Herbert W. Armstrong said...>>Well I use to use Ne...

2008-06-15T01:55:00.000+12:00

Herbert W. Armstrong said...

>>Well I use to use Netscape, at least before I died!<<

You will be resurrected and forced to use it for all eternity.

CONSTANTINE’S SWORD, by Oscar-nominated documentar...

2008-06-15T01:46:00.000+12:00

CONSTANTINE’S SWORD, by Oscar-nominated documentarian Oren Jacoby, is an astonishing exploration of the dark side of Christianity, following acclaimed author and former priest James Carroll on a journey of remembrance and reckoning. [More]

Why are intolerance, violence and war so deeply ingrained in religion?

Why did the Cross become a rallying symbol for persecution?

How does one man who loves the Church confront its history of crusade and conquest?

http://constantinessword.com/

Pop ups have now popped off. I come in through an ...

2008-06-15T01:30:00.000+12:00

Pop ups have now popped off. I come in through an anonymous proxy server to skirt the bamboo curtain. For a few days, after Ambassador Watch comes up, the browser (IE6 and Mozilla) would be thrown to http:///robots.txt. The workaround was to hit the browser stop button at the right time... All better now!

John Hagee, Christian Zionist who raises millions ...

2008-06-15T01:24:00.000+12:00

John Hagee, Christian Zionist who raises millions for Israel had been in the news recently. The Anti Defamation League (ADL) is upset with Hagee's views from a sermon he gave on Hitler in the late 1990s.

John Hagee likened Adolf Hitler to a "hunter" sent by God to force creation of a Jewish state.

Statements in Hagee's books claimed that the Jews' "disobedience and rebellion" were in part responsible for "the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day... Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come."

A Catholic civil rights group which expressed concerns about some of Hagee's pronouncements about the Church, and gay groups, upset about Hagee's statement that Hurricane Katrina was, in part, God's judgment on New Orleans because of its tolerance of gays and lesbians.

Hagee has called the Catholic Church a "false religious system" and a "false cult system" and has suggested that the church played a role in the Holocaust.

There are no problems with pop-up's with Netscape ...

2008-06-14T14:36:00.000+12:00

There are no problems with pop-up's with Netscape unless you are trying to "pop-up" out of that damned oak box in the res"erection" and then find that a "Tkach_virus" stops the whole process in its tracks!

It does look like I will have to start over my ministry with a new twist. Instead of the protestant way of recruiting tithe payers with "tracts", maybe someone can help by creating a "POP_A_HERB" that automatically pops up some sermon (like my famous two tree sermon) and immediately convinces you that "I AM" what I be Bro....A stinking rotten corpse!

The pay is a night with Loma.

Now on another note, God is working with Ted at the moment in an effort to save your soul. Please feel free to name someone here that is willing to do the work! The pay is a night with Ted! Not as good as a night with my daughter, but it will suffice!

In Jesus name,
Herbert W. Armstrong

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?sourceid=navcli...

2008-06-14T14:32:00.000+12:00

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enCA271CA271&q=false%20profit&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv#sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enCA271CA271&q=false%20profit&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv&start=60

this one!

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?sourceid=navcli...

2008-06-14T14:28:00.000+12:00

Well I use to use Netscape, at least before I died...

2008-06-14T14:20:00.000+12:00

Well I use to use Netscape, at least before I died!

I was getting the pop-ups when going to the commen...

2008-06-14T13:33:00.000+12:00

I was getting the pop-ups when going to the comments as well, but only after you added the "what reading level is your blog" widget, Gavin.

(The tipoff was the ad logline on the bottom of the widget for the casino pop-up that consistently appeared.)

I would say that's your culprit right there.