Comments on Ambassador Watch: Dennis Decodes the Decalogue

HEY, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE GREAT IF EVERYONE KEP...

2007-03-06T14:52:00.000+13:00

HEY, THE 10 COMMANDMENTS ARE GREAT IF EVERYONE KEPT THEM. OH, BY THE WAY WHO HAS KEPT THEM? LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU FIND ONE. I AM REALLY GETTING SICK OF RELIGION GETTING IN THE WAY OF GOD.

Now that L. McCulluough and C. Kilouh were seen lo...

2007-03-02T11:40:00.000+13:00

Now that L. McCulluough and C. Kilouh were seen looking at land in Dallas to buy for a new headquarters and college for the United Church, their members in Texas will likely be excited to have the United HQ in their state.

Steve K,May I suggest you get to grips with the re...

2007-03-02T11:12:00.000+13:00

Steve K,

May I suggest you get to grips with the real world.

Here in New Zealand, in the 1970s,ministerial announcements used to mention Randy Dick, an American Worldwide minister.

One of the congregation approached the local minister and pointed out to him what Randy Dick meant in this country...is this too sensitive for your delicate psyche?..."randy" means sexually promiscuous and "dick" means penis.

Never again was he called "Randy Dick".And yes, that church MEMBER, if you pardon the entendre,knew what those two words meant,as did many other church members.And yes,there were smirks along the way.

What does the O.T.say,"he that pisseth against the wall", or should we be PC and write , "he that expresses a stream of nitrogenous excretions against the wall".

I suggest you go and blue-line your Bible..you won't have much left.

Jorgheinz

Thank you, Gavin,for your expository on the altern...

2007-03-02T10:26:00.000+13:00

Thank you, Gavin,for your expository on the alternative meanings of "ass".

Had you not placed "animal" in parenthesis I would have read the header for what it said.

Life is full of surprises.

Jorgheinz

AMBASSADOR WATCH is unhealthy, I thought this site...

2007-03-02T03:45:00.000+13:00

AMBASSADOR WATCH is unhealthy, I thought this site was something totally different, but now it's apparent to me what it truly is.
I am flushing ambassador watch down the proverbial toilet where all the other S*** belongs.

Gavin,In your comment #10 header,you quoted that t...

2007-03-02T03:01:00.000+13:00

Gavin,

In your comment #10 header,you quoted that there was to be no coveting of asses( animal).

Pray,tell me,how could you covet a human ass,a stupid person in other words.?

Could you please amplify and expound on this part of the header.

A Nonny Mouse

Well ummmm....er.....ok, I can do this.....uhhhhh coveting a human ass is a function of and prohibition in commandment #7. Little humor there.....

>>>Anonymous said... kscribe, have you ever though...

2007-02-28T19:15:00.000+13:00

>>>Anonymous said...
kscribe, have you ever thought of finding a good exorcist and getting yourself cured? Perhaps a compassionate exorcist might even take pity on you and give you a quantity discount.<<<

Yes,I found a most excellent exorcist at Wal Mart! $10.95 and she will throw in a free haircut on the deal!
Go find yourself a boyfriend Plain Truth webaster and set yourself free......
Kscribe.

What's up with all of the ad hominem attacks? Can...

2007-02-28T18:53:00.000+13:00

What's up with all of the ad hominem attacks? Can't people of diverse beliefs be civil with one another?

Gammer

kscribe, have you ever thought of finding a good e...

2007-02-28T17:32:00.000+13:00

kscribe, have you ever thought of finding a good exorcist and getting yourself cured? Perhaps a compassionate exorcist might even take pity on you and give you a quantity discount.

>>>Anonymous said... There you go again, kscribble...

2007-02-28T16:56:00.000+13:00

>>>Anonymous said...
There you go again, kscribble, flying into satanic fits and foaming away at the mouth, like usual.<<<

Something out of the Exorcist movie huh? Turn off your TV and open up the good book sinner!

I just knew it was you! "kscribble"
scribble like a child the way you "de"scribe me! Now I never foam at the mouth, I have had my shots! However, the doctor did let me keep the syringe as a souvenir! And as to your statement "like usual" perhaps you could give a example of such writings? After all, I am a "SCRIBE!"
In Jesus name,
Kscribe.

Liebe "Nonny Mouse"Re covetting of members of equi...

2007-02-28T16:48:00.000+13:00

Liebe "Nonny Mouse"

Re covetting of members of equine species: the header is Dennis', to him be the glory.

Re your pronounciation of "aerosol", there is an obvious difference in dialect between Eastern Aucklanders and those of us closer to the Waikato heartland. I suspect this is because of the influx of South Africans and Mandarin speakers in your area. I can only observe that those of us South of the Bombay Hill, untainted by these pernicious influences, pronounce this term with a hard vowel and Southern rrrrrrrrrr - ahrrrsss-hole. The New Zealand Oxford Dictionary provides a non-horsey spelling (arsehole), the self-same spelling used by Her Gracious Majesty when referring to Tony Blair. I've often
wondered why our North American cousins transmute this bit of rude Old English into something else... but hey, we're talking about a culture where they think it's more polite to call a toilet a bathroom.

Obviously though, in the World Tomorrow, when a pure language is restored, New Zealand English will be ENFORCED, spades will be shovels, toilets will be toilets and arses will be arses. God speed that day...

:-)

There you go again, kscribble, flying into satanic...

2007-02-28T16:40:00.000+13:00

There you go again, kscribble, flying into satanic fits and foaming away at the mouth, like usual.

P.S. How did you get the position of Satan's scribe? It might be an interesting story.

>>>Anonymous said... Also, I do not view the Bible...

2007-02-28T16:20:00.000+13:00

>>>Anonymous said...
Also, I do not view the Bible as the inspired word of God. But I don't view it as "trash", either.
I see it as a literary work with a historical context.

If the Bible is just an ordinary writing then we have no "absolutes" to speak of. Your opinion is as good as mine and everyone else. Nobody can tell us killing and stealing and copulating ...
Copulating, there we go again....something sexual!
Just go for it Homes, you keep talking about it!

Steve KOtherwise we MAY think of you as intolerant...

2007-02-28T16:17:00.000+13:00

Steve K
Otherwise we MAY think of you as intolerant!
I did not say you are intolerant!
Please.......

Anonymous said... WHY GOD KILLED THE PERVERTSYou w...

2007-02-28T16:15:00.000+13:00

Anonymous said...
WHY GOD KILLED THE PERVERTS
You wrote>>>The atheists at The Painful Truth website have basically degenerated into writing about how they cannot see how there could be anything wrong with sticking their dinks up each other’s butts <<<<

Ya, I know who you are. You ran that website Plain Truth. Well you were an intolerant Christian asshole back then and still are an intolerant Christian asshole now!

Never once has anyone talked about homosexual desires toward one another on the Painful Truth Forum. However, for all the years of rhetoric that trumps out your mouth about homosexuals, I suspect you might be fighting that battle. You see, it is basic psychology. One condemns a person, a race, or sexual identity constantly in the effort to reason out to THEMSELVES that they are not as the one condemned.

You also wrote> As for all the killing in the Bible, with more prophesied to come in the future....
I will reply as such: “Fairy Tales sometimes come true with fairy dust and pixie glue, then all YOUR dreams can come true... “Your dreams of hatred and death by the hands of some guy who lives up in the sky!

So go ahead and call people “perverts”, for it is YOU who are the twisted one. Your prayers go no higher than the ceiling in the room you pray in.

Kscribe.

Regarding Proof Texting: "A synonymous phrase migh...

2007-02-28T15:51:00.000+13:00

Regarding Proof Texting: "A synonymous phrase might be "cherry picking", or only looking for the favorable."

All there is about the Sabbath is favorable. Nothing against it.

Most of you, I presume, believe that Jesus was the God of the OT correct or not? I mean, even trinitarians would believe that, would they not? Since God is one, etc....?

So, why would Jesus, kill off the Jews and Israelites for Sabbath breaking, when he would come and say, okay, now all that killing was useless, no need to keep the day that you broke along with the other commandments.

I mean, he died for their sins did he not?

What was sin? the transgression of the law. That is not cherry picking, that is scripture.

When a minister or a church openly violates the la...

2007-02-28T11:56:00.000+13:00

When a minister or a church openly violates the laws of God and refuses to change,then is the time to get out.We are told not to welcome a stranger who preaches contrary to the Bible,across our threshhold,lest we partake of his sins.There is the implication of a curse within the above quoted verses.

Regardless of what spin the church offers in defence of its errings,the principle of not associating with them applies.

Each situation is different and a decision made according to the circumstances,however,having said the above.

We should have cleared out of Worldwide when HWA launched his spin to"explain" the failure of his prophecy for Jan/Feb 1972.He nominated a year and it did not occur.This should have told us something.Instead,we fell for the lie.

Vee is too soon old und too late schmart.

Jorgheinz

Gavin,In your comment #10 header,you quoted that t...

2007-02-28T11:34:00.000+13:00

I perceive "a root of bitterness" in these comment...

2007-02-28T09:56:00.000+13:00

I perceive "a root of bitterness" in these comments. You should be ashamed and repent before God for putting down His holy words.

Dennis:I admit I have never read any of Karen Arms...

2007-02-28T04:38:00.000+13:00

Dennis:

I admit I have never read any of Karen Armstrong's works. But I have a feeling that she follows the same tact that other scholars in this field follow.

They develop an evolutionary model for the Hebrew concept of God that asserts that El of the Hebrews was the lineal descendant of El of the Canaanites. According to Wikipedia:
"The word El appears in other northwest Semitic languages such as Phoenician and Aramaic."

So with a leap of presumption, Karen Armstrong suddenly has a complete etiology of God. She presumes that a linguistic nexus equates to a conceptual nexus. She can now tell you that the Hebrews adopted their God from the Canaanites and that he was a part of the Canaanite pantheon. In doing this, she errs greatly.

Just because the New Ager in the office next door and I both use the term "god", it does not mean that we are remotely referring to the same thing. An archeaologist from the year 3000 AD would be running down a rabbit trail if he tried to some how develop a theory that my concept of God was derived from the New Ager's concept of God or vice versa. Those of us here and now know that the concepts are almost mutally disjoint.

The only thing that the New Ager and I have in common is that we use the same language. We decidedly do not have the same God -- just the same word for God.

I like this statement. This is a note about one of her books from a favorable webpage: "According to (Karen) Armstrong, the biblical evidence suggests that the leader Moses convinced his people El and Yahweh were one and the same." That is a really odd way of stating it. Of course, Moses believed and taught they were one and the same. It is Karen Armstrong who assumes they were different. By making her arguments to be "truth", she manages to characterize Moses as religious con artist. Under the covers this is just our old friend "Begging the Question." The argument goes:

1) Karen is right.
2) Therefore, Moses is wrong.
3) Therefore, Karen is right.

-- Neo

dennis, it's (ten commandment's) not for shoving ...

2007-02-28T04:09:00.000+13:00

dennis, it's (ten commandment's) not for shoving down someone else's throat, they are there for regulating, do you think for a second that God didn't know that man would try to do his fellow man wrong? Example and Point: Who posted a picture of "the Ten Commandments movie" next to your topic? Did you or they or whoever have permission from Paramount Picture to display the cover from that movie? Laws are put into place to regulate mankind, nature, universe, everything that exists.

It's all probably moot anyway. Last evening, our ...

2007-02-28T04:04:00.000+13:00

It's all probably moot anyway. Last evening, our local news was just filled with the announcement that the ossuary of Jesus Christ was discovered and identified. His wife, Mary Magdalene's ossuary was close by, as was that of their son Judah. Interesting times for Christianity!

Gammer

"As for all the killing in the Bible, with more pr...

2007-02-28T02:59:00.000+13:00

"As for all the killing in the Bible, with more prophesied to come in the future, take it as a warning of what could happen to YOU if YOU do not behave."

Listen to you..I rest my case....In the NT we would rephrase that as "Love Jesus or Burn Forever in Hell." Punishing, threatening and murdering humans into the love of God and Christ is perverse. But you well reflect the same mentality as the Ten Commandments were given in, so you have learned well.

Most of you defenders of the Ten C's have completely missed the point of the posting. It is not about laws that produce better behaviors, safety for all and a smooth running society. The it is a posting about how the original "laws of God" were applied in real life, made exceptions to by the Law Giver himself and when necessary by the chosen ones Prophet, Priest, King and Commoner. Slicing, dicing, stoning, burning and disemboweling others, men-women-teens-children and their cattle, in the name of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is exactly what is wrong with fundamentalist religions of every ilk on the planet. It simply can't stand it when others don't filter the world or religious belief through the eyes of the fundamentalists and goes nuts when the spirituality of another comes from themselves and does not need or thrive on having it shoved down one's throat...or we'll kill you.

Missing the point of -- and never even attempting ...

2007-02-28T01:03:00.000+13:00

Missing the point of -- and never even attempting a reply to -- my earlier post, the anonymous poster with the capital headlines has confirmed the deeper cautions of scripture by revealing the "categories" of sins in his/her mind.

Like the old saying about being pregnant, you either sin or you don't. An understanding of where that leaves all of us, regardless of where our dinks may be, leads to clarity of thought.

Once one begins to contemplate the notion that he/she might be less of a sinner that the next person, out goes the bathwater, baby and all. And we end up with lectures that produce nothing but hot air, hate and confusion.

When we use the phrase "proof texting" we are refe...

2007-02-27T20:05:00.000+13:00

When we use the phrase "proof texting" we are referring to the practice of deliberately searching for quotations which support one of our beliefs, and failing to quote passages often in the previous or next paragraph, which plainly disprove that belief. Proof texters also often completely yank their quotations out of context. A synonymous phrase might be "cherry picking", or only looking for the favorable.

This is a really deceptive and dishonest form of research. Fortunately, real scholars have "caught" the WCG scholars, and have pointed out the most flagrant examples of this. disingenuousness. Unfortunately, whom do you think the brethren choose to believe? Hint: the person they believe never graduated from High School.

The correct way to prove or disprove a premise is to collect evidence, and allow the entire body of evidence to confirm or refute the premise. Proof texting was extensively used by the Armstrongs and their lackeys in producing their "True History of the True Church". It was also the basis for much of the material contained in Dr. Hoeh's Compendium of World History.

I got the impression that some of our bloggers think proof texts are the texts which prove a doctrine. The reality is a bit more sinister.

BB