Comments on Ambassador Watch: Flying Free in print

Charlie -And the way some splinters tout HWA as be...

2009-02-12T15:54:00.000+13:00

Charlie -

And the way some splinters tout HWA as being the most important religious leader of the 20th century. If you have to tell people someone was important, I think that someone was only important to a select few.

"And it won't go away..."Oh but it did. And all of...

2009-02-12T14:47:00.000+13:00

"And it won't go away..."

Oh but it did. And all of the WWCG's incestuous daughters are slowly, but inexorably, dwindling in number. A footnote in the history of one sect of the many denominations of the religious movement called Christianity, which is in itself a footnote in the global history of religions in general.

Paul Ray

Paul Ray

Anonymous gushes: "But the largest Sabbath keeping...

2009-02-12T03:44:00.000+13:00

Anonymous gushes: "But the largest Sabbath keeping, Holy Day keeping, non-trinitarian movement since the third century and possibly the Cathars in France was nurtured by this corrupt leader and the old WCG.

It is a historic event of enormous proportion.

It is a significant milestone in the movement towards genuine Christianity and the search for the historical Jesus.

And it won't go away..."

A maximum of approximately 100k members at its peak is buried under the several billion of people on planet earth.

Hardly a "Historic event of enormous proportion".

As far as not going away; There may always be an idiot or two around ignoring reality and continuing herbie's ways, however 99.99999999% of the world has either never heard of your movement or has moved on.

Bon chance.

"Flying Free"How much we could have saved if Herb ...

2009-02-11T07:33:00.000+13:00

"Flying Free"

How much we could have saved

if Herb had been able to fly around for

free

flies away Herb!

bye

There is no end to writing books, especially about...

2009-02-10T16:07:00.000+13:00

There is no end to writing books, especially about movements that are out of vogue and that are under attached by established Christianity.

HWA was corrupted. No question.

But the largest Sabbath keeping, Holy Day keeping, non-trinitarian movement since the third century and possibly the Cathars in France was nurtured by this corrupt leader and the old WCG.

It is a historic event of enormous proportion.

It is a significant milestone in the movement towards genuine Christianity and the search for the historical Jesus.

And it won't go away...

Actually, Richard, starting in the '70s, weird bec...

2009-02-10T07:28:00.000+13:00

Actually, Richard, starting in the '70s, weird became "in". It was a kind of a rebellion against the post WW-II yellow pencil syndrome. For better or worse, weirdness gave people a measure of individuality. The key was to surround oneself with freaks, so that one's own weirdness would seem insignificant.

Good therapy! And, culturally enriching. Fact is that artistic people have always been considered to be weird, only sophisticated terms are applied to define this phenomenon, such as "abstract", "Avant Garde", or "gauche". It's a kind of being hip. You wear your wierdness like a badge, and make it appear to be cool by applying a bit of charisma.

It's good practice for whatever comes at you in life, and makes one appreciate and savor whatever interludes of comparative normalcy one might pass through.

BB

Did you read Betty Brogaard's "Dare To Think For Y...

2009-02-10T04:20:00.000+13:00

Did you read Betty Brogaard's "Dare To Think For Yourself"?

She is an ex-member of the WCG and wife of WCG church pastor, Fred Brogaard, now deceased.

Gavin said, “as I read through the first chapters ...

2009-02-10T02:48:00.000+13:00

Gavin said, “as I read through the first chapters I found myself thinking: man, we really were weird!”

MY COMMENT – Yes we were weird. I grew-up weird, and when I left the cult I think that is why I lived a lifetime single and alone. Try finding a mate when you have had the WCG baggage in your brain. I had one short relationship when I was 40 that did produce a child however and it was the best thing that ever happened to me even though I am a single parent. But, in general, I was just too weird for the rest of society to relate to.

Gavin said, “And oh, those quotes! I'd forgotten just how blatant a lot of Herb's writing was. The thinly veiled threats of eternal damnation if we didn't do this or that. I read them again with a sense of disbelief... was I really taken in by this rubbish?”

MY COMMENT – Oh yes! I saved in a box many of HWA’s co-worker letters from the late 1960s through mid 1970s. About 5 years, I opened the box and re-read HWA’s coworker letters for the first time in 35 years. It made me mad to read them as HWAs own words condemn him as a fraud and false profit (oops, I meant prophet). Time was always short, and yes the threat of eternal damnation was always laced implicitly and explicitly in HWAs writings. But, to paraphrase as PT Barnum once said, “You can fool the Larrys, Tom M. and Bob Thiels all the time”

Richard

I bought it today too, and I can only concur with ...

2009-02-09T05:11:00.000+13:00

I bought it today too, and I can only concur with Gavin's recommendation. This book is something completely and refreshingly different. The way John Morgan writes is like a breath of fresh air.

Garner Ted Armstrong once wrote: "Amen and Amen! Hallelujah a few times and Praise the Lord, man!" He was being sarcastic. But I'm not. Do yourself and those you care about a favour: BUY IT NOW!

Thanks Gavin. I do have John's book on CD, but may...

2009-02-09T03:55:00.001+13:00

Thanks Gavin. I do have John's book on CD, but may order the book itself, because it is hard to read a book on CD, as you may know, esp a long book.
John also is a very thorough research investigator of the Paget Report regarding the investigation into the death of Princess Diana.
I did a review for his book regarding the errors of the Paget Report, on the British version of Amazon.com

I bought it too, and posted the relevant links on ...

2009-02-09T02:35:00.000+13:00

I bought it too, and posted the relevant links on ISA as well.

I just bought it. This sounds like something that...

2009-02-08T17:31:00.000+13:00

I just bought it. This sounds like something that will be tremendously helpful.

I'll review it on my blog when I'm done.