Comments on Ambassador Watch: The disappearing ThD

"Do our strong opinions somehow blind us to s...

2009-11-22T10:52:45.484+13:00

"Do our strong opinions somehow blind us to sarcasm?"

Nope the totalitarian thought-reform does. READ LIFTON.

Big Dandy wrote: "Time for both of us to stop...

2009-11-22T05:51:26.675+13:00

Big Dandy wrote:
"Time for both of us to stop playing word games and move on."

I take words VERY seriously, and so I don't play "word games" - but I agree with you in that it is time to move on.

Big Daddy, I think the point is that "Dr"...

2009-11-21T20:52:07.188+13:00

Big Daddy, I think the point is that "Dr" T is wallowing in his shadowy schmuckness by virtue of not revealing his alleged degrees.

It's not that he's like great scholars in doing so.
It's that he's like other sleazy schmucks for not doing so.

It's easy to find the credentials of real, actual scholars.

Blinded said... Striking to me that bloggers (myse...

2009-11-21T12:28:29.430+13:00

Blinded said... Striking to me that bloggers (myself included) are often unable to pick-up on cynicism such as that used by Big Dandy. Do our strong opinions somehow blind us to sarcasm?

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Blinded to sarcasm? NOT US! We have been trained at the feet of Gavin Gamaliel, the master cynic!

Striking to me that bloggers (myself included) are...

2009-11-21T12:13:40.429+13:00

Striking to me that bloggers (myself included) are often unable to pick-up on cynicism such as that used by Big Dandy. Do our strong opinions somehow blind us to sarcasm?

Leonardo said... Perhaps I wouldn't miss you...

2009-11-21T09:38:51.377+13:00

Leonardo said...

Perhaps I wouldn't miss your point if you actually HAD one!

In his later years Carl Rogers was a HUGE figure in psychology (he was actually one of my heroes when I was younger) - sort of like Albert Einstein was to physics.

So yeah, well-known seminal figures like Rogers and Einstein perhaps didn’t parade their PhD, but I’ll bet I could find out what specific doctoral program they graduated from and the name of the granting institution pretty quickly.

The same cannot be said of Thiel.

And that's my specific point...what was yours again?

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Leonardo,

My point is exactly the same as yours. So if I don't have a point, you don't either.

Time for both of us to stop playing word games and move on.

Big Dandy posted: "I once exchanged business ...

2009-11-21T09:03:44.962+13:00

Big Dandy posted: "I once exchanged business cards with Carl Rogers, one of the preeminent psychologists of the 20th century. As I examined Rogers' card, no Ph.D was displayed after name, but only the following: "Carl Rogers, person." Great scholars do not need to showcase degrees."

Ah, one of the true marks of a diehard armstrongite; Name dropping and I was shoulder rubbing with so and so.

Whoop de doo.

So you think Thiel is a great scholar, huh? Sure he is...

And somewhere in the hills of Tennesse there is a pig that really can whistle.

(chuckle, chortle, snort)

"Carl Rogers, Person" was another way of...

2009-11-21T08:51:33.571+13:00

"Carl Rogers, Person" was another way of referencing some of his work. And I don't think Leonardo missed the point.

Big Dandy wrote: "Leonardo, you miss my point...

2009-11-21T08:31:09.586+13:00

Big Dandy wrote:
"Leonardo, you miss my point once again."

Perhaps I wouldn't miss your point if you actually HAD one!

In his later years Carl Rogers was a HUGE figure in psychology (he was actually one of my heroes when I was younger) - sort of like Albert Einstein was to physics.

So yeah, well-known seminal figures like Rogers and Einstein perhaps didn’t parade their PhD, but I’ll bet I could find out what specific doctoral program they graduated from and the name of the granting institution pretty quickly.

The same cannot be said of Thiel.

And that's my specific point...what was yours again?

Leonardo said... OK, Big Dandy, you wrote: "...

2009-11-21T06:04:12.817+13:00

Leonardo said...
OK, Big Dandy, you wrote:
"Many top scholars do not list their degrees."

Can you give me a specific example of this? - and by that I mean one whom you CANNOT find out with a little searching what his formal doctoral degree was in, or what particular educational institution it was granted by? And even if you could, how exactly would this justify Thiel's refusal to make plain his supposed academic degrees?

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Leonardo, you miss my point once again. I'm simply stating that many top scholars do not choose to display their degrees. Here's an example. I once exchanged business cards with Carl Rogers, one of the preeminent psychologists of the 20th century. As I examined Rogers' card, no Ph.D was displayed after name, but only the following: "Carl Rogers, person." Great scholars do not need to showcase degrees.

As far as Thiel's degree dancing, much more than enough has already been written.

"Don't make me read anything." That...

2009-11-21T03:12:45.771+13:00

"Don't make me read anything."

That suits you well, Bear.

The Apostate Paul

Who is Bob Thiel and why should we be concerned ab...

2009-11-20T16:37:14.670+13:00

Who is Bob Thiel and why should we be concerned about him? Don't make me read anything.

The Bear

I also have a PhD. It's from the business col...

2009-11-20T13:30:55.741+13:00

I also have a PhD. It's from the business college of a large university. I use it when appropriate and I name the institution and the exact field of study. Thiel's mumble behind his hand style of listing his qualifications does nothing but raise red flags.

Speakerbox said... Please tell me that you're ...

2009-11-20T13:29:28.033+13:00

Speakerbox said...
Please tell me that you're joking and not elevating Dr. Bob to Nobel Prize status.
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You are correct. We can't elevate Dr. Bob to Nobel Prize stature, as there is no such price given for religion. But if there were... :)

LCG for years has used Bobby Boy as a shill to do ...

2009-11-20T12:53:48.923+13:00

LCG for years has used Bobby Boy as a shill to do their dirty work smearing other groups whom they view as a threat, meanwhile distancing themselves from his outbursts, which they have tacitly condoned. His phony credentials now make him a complete liability and embarrassment. His 2012 book is nonsense. The question is: Will RCM and the gang now cut him off at the knees, washing their hands of him, laughing all the way to the bank?

OK, Big Dandy, you wrote: "Many top scholars ...

2009-11-20T07:17:20.857+13:00

OK, Big Dandy, you wrote:
"Many top scholars do not list their degrees."

Can you give me a specific example of this? - and by that I mean one whom you CANNOT find out with a little searching what his formal doctoral degree was in, or what particular educational institution it was granted by?

And even if you could, how exactly would this justify Thiel's refusal to make plain his supposed academic degrees?

I have a Ph.D. Sometimes I put it after my name, s...

2009-11-20T06:57:21.320+13:00

I have a Ph.D. Sometimes I put it after my name, sometimes I don't. When I write a bio, I name the institution I got it from and also the degree title. I would never say my degree is in "various" this or that. Also. research methods is part of EVERY doctoral degree, so I also wouldn't mention that either. Now, you can major in something like Educational Research, but that is a specific field of study.

Thiel may indeed have a Ph.D. from this college, but he is definitely not forthright in what it is in.

Leonardo said... False! Such scholars may not open...

2009-11-20T06:14:27.233+13:00

Leonardo said... False! Such scholars may not openly use the term PhD after their names because they are so well-known in their fields, but if you ask them to show their degrees, they can do so very quickly, and intelligibly.

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Leonardo, you scream "False," and then nothing you state afterwards has anything to do with disproving my comment. Please take more care in your postings.

Anon wrote: "He is a giant in his field, and ...

2009-11-19T14:47:41.792+13:00

Anon wrote: "He is a giant in his field, and to be revered. Leave him alone." Wed Nov 18, 02:33:00 PM

To be revered is to be a "reverend" is that not correct? It seems Bob and I share the same title! Hey brother!

Reverend KScribe.

Good work, Gavin, I perceive that I am allowed to...

2009-11-19T14:36:08.554+13:00

Good work, Gavin,

I perceive that I am allowed to retain the Philadelphia and Living Universities on my list of approved tertiary institutions.

Institution,in its most pejorative sense, applies to the above pair.

Cheers,

Jorg

Anonymous said...
Perhaps "Dr Bob" would like to receive a PROPER doctorate from either Living University or its equivalent at Edmond.

Them's the real McCoy.

Cheers,

Jorgheinz

Big Dandy wrote: "Many top scholars do not li...

2009-11-19T09:53:42.671+13:00

Big Dandy wrote:
"Many top scholars do not list their degrees. In fact, I've even seen Nobel laureates bury this award in their CV so that one would be hard pressed to find it. Perhaps Dr. Thiel has now moved beyond perfunctory degree listing."

False! Such scholars may not openly use the term PhD after their names because they are so well-known in their fields, but if you ask them to show their degrees, they can do so very quickly, and intelligibly.

I was wondering if the good "Doctor" Bob...

2009-11-19T04:30:58.284+13:00

I was wondering if the good "Doctor" Bob would be willing to exonerate himself here by being willing to participate in a question and answer forum with Gavin acting as moderator?

I personally have some questions for him in regards to his comments on an article of mine some time back where I demonstrated the flawed logic in the arguments used to justify teaching and keeping the sabbath. Instead of refuting any of what I wrote, he merely said all one had to do was read one of the sabbath booklets produced by Living COG for "proof."

"Dr." Bobby, I/we don't debate booklets; I/we debate people.

Let's have him put that well groomed intellect to use.

Bill Hohmann

With a lowly useless degree from AC.

Big Dandy said... "Many top scholars do not ...

2009-11-19T01:38:51.294+13:00

Big Dandy said...
"Many top scholars do not list their degrees. In fact, I've even seen Nobel laureates bury this award in their CV so that one would be hard pressed to find it. Perhaps Dr. Thiel has now moved beyond perfunctory degree listing."

Please tell me that you're joking and not elevating Dr. Bob to Nobel Prize status.

"I think it is so rude to condemn this genius...

2009-11-18T23:23:58.185+13:00

"I think it is so rude to condemn this genius of a man. "

3/10 troll harder

"Dr Thiel is not a mininster- not in LCG any ...

2009-11-18T23:22:28.021+13:00

"Dr Thiel is not a mininster- not in LCG any way, he is not even a deacon"

He's not even a Dr. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT. Missed it, you have.