<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:gd="http://schemas.google.com/g/2005"><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post2396787703275166661..comments</id><updated>2016-12-17T08:14:53.598+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Ambassador Watch: Tales from the Herbal Manor</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html'/><link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/"/><link rel='next' type='application/atom+xml' href='https://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default?start-index=26&amp;max-results=25'/><author><name>Gavin</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03060097218905523899</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://bp1.blogger.com/_pO9nuJW3hvw/R-QTmmadyLI/AAAAAAAAArg/OmWCs1V4tPM/S220/CalvinHobbsCalmDown.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>43</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-144988234432649752</id><published>2008-02-03T13:40:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-02-03T13:40:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>I like reading these posts about Del Mar, etc. Mos...</title><content type='html'>I like reading these posts about Del Mar, etc. Most are absolutely wrong, or slanted or down right made up.&lt;BR/&gt;I lived in MDM for two years and none of the nonsense mentioned here happened while I was there.&lt;BR/&gt;I believe all this happened after the influx of the worldly &quot;morons&quot; who never got the message but came to have a party. Those are the folks today who complain about situations they made up.&lt;BR/&gt;I&#39;d love to see an honest story here from someone who really was there and was trying to grow and change and become a better person instead of the silliness being talked about here by those who didn&#39;t go there to be better people. That&#39;s the really sad part.&lt;BR/&gt;Bob</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/144988234432649752'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/144988234432649752'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1201999200000#c144988234432649752' title=''/><author><name>Bob</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10631218154937562542</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-129774682"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="3 February 2008 at 13:40"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2896670768607422791</id><published>2008-01-12T19:02:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-12T19:02:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>I catch the drift of the question anonymous, but d...</title><content type='html'>I catch the drift of the question anonymous, but does WWJTJrD? mean WHAT WAS JOE TKACH JR. DOING?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This is a cryptic clue that should be looked into. Both are legitimate questions.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The truth is that the THEFT of the Worldwide Church of God and EVERY PENNY OF ITS ASSETS, was the biggest crime in California history.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In front of everyone&#39;s nose six men literally TOOK a billion dollar enterprise, and sent its REAL OWNERS, the MEMBERS WHO PAID THE BILLS AND BUILT THE CHURCH PACKING!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But, with their new found allies in Glendora backing them, they used the FALSE FRONT OF RELIGIOUS CONVERSION as a SMOKESCREEN to make it seem &quot;AS IF,&quot; AN ENTIRE CHURCH HAD CHANGED ITS RELIGION.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The truth is that only about 10% ACTUALLY APPROVED THE CHANGES! But, the thieves sidled right up to very protestants they had formerly condemned and with the blessings of the Fundalmentalists they acted AS IF the CHURCH had changed. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;TRUTH: THE CHURCH DIDN&#39;T CHANGE!&lt;BR/&gt;THE CHURCH WAS LOOTED!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The only change was that the CHURCH WAS GAGGED AND THREATENED NOT TO DARE SPEAK AGAINST THE THEFT!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;IMAGINE! ROBBERS THREATENING THE VICTIMS OF THE ROBBERY NOT TO SPEAK! WHEN SOME DID SPEAK, THEY WERE QUICKLY DISPATCHED!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/2896670768607422791'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/2896670768607422791'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1200117720000#c2896670768607422791' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12 January 2008 at 19:02"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-6051882122805861928</id><published>2008-01-12T14:36:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-12T14:36:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Stan,its just a wild idea, but could Tkach,Jr. be ...</title><content type='html'>Stan,&lt;BR/&gt;its just a wild idea, but could Tkach,Jr. be the son of an Armstrong?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6051882122805861928'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6051882122805861928'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1200101760000#c6051882122805861928' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="12 January 2008 at 14:36"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-7181336665292643190</id><published>2008-01-11T23:10:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-11T23:10:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Anonymous said...Today, Russell Duke and at least ...</title><content type='html'>Anonymous said...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;Today, Russell Duke and at least three other high ranking WCG personnel are employed at APU.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tkach,Rogers,Fezeal, and others received PHD&#39;s from APU for doing nothing more than having books ghost written for them.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;They also took courses there for years and were denigrated as liberals for doing so!&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;I&gt;Ambasssador pumped &quot;MILLIONS&quot; of dollars into APU. At the same time, APU went on a building and land acquisition spree. Public records show this for all to see.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;Azusa Pacific University has &quot;faith centers&quot; of a number of different denominations, for example the Methodists have one.  You can see  on their web site various religious groups have combined efforts at APU  over the last 50 years.  Ambassador is one of the smaller ones.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;APU has extension campuses, there&#39;s one in Mission Valley in San Diego.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;They seemed to have adopted a model similar to the University of Phoenix in that regard.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I still think its not where the cash is going.  But it deserves watching.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Gotta learn to ask the right questions.   WWJTJrD?&lt;/B&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7181336665292643190'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7181336665292643190'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1200046200000#c7181336665292643190' title=''/><author><name>Bamboo_bends</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11064036099785125749</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='25' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_CQNYYhrEidY/R33DKeanfFI/AAAAAAAAACM/qlf8It_F8Js/S220/iStock_000003896272XSmall.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1035694250"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11 January 2008 at 23:10"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-4285099387580347063</id><published>2008-01-11T22:47:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-11T22:47:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>D said....I also went to cal sec. of state web sit...</title><content type='html'>&lt;I&gt;D said....I also went to cal sec. of state web site and it says wcg is a &quot;C&quot; corp. there isn&#39;t an &quot;F&quot; corp listed. &lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The phrase &quot;C corp&quot; is from the Internal Revenue Code (described in subchapter C, wihich begins with section 301 of the IRC). S corps are described in subchapter S (beginning in section 1361). A &quot;501(c)(3)&quot; charity is from subchapter F. the &quot;C&quot; designation on the Cal web site only means that the entity is a corporation in California, not whether it is a C, S, or F corp as those terms are commonly (mis)used.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/4285099387580347063'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/4285099387580347063'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1200044820000#c4285099387580347063' title=''/><author><name>Bamboo_bends</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11064036099785125749</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='25' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_CQNYYhrEidY/R33DKeanfFI/AAAAAAAAACM/qlf8It_F8Js/S220/iStock_000003896272XSmall.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1035694250"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11 January 2008 at 22:47"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-6571987844837623345</id><published>2008-01-11T14:11:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-11T14:11:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Camfinch,Do you have any contact with our old bind...</title><content type='html'>Camfinch,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Do you have any contact with our old bindery buddy?  I think he&#39;d be an interesting one to compare notes with!  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BB</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6571987844837623345'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6571987844837623345'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1200013860000#c6571987844837623345' title=''/><author><name>Byker Bob</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11 January 2008 at 14:11"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-7476687615471598989</id><published>2008-01-11T01:49:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-11T01:49:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>byker bob wrote:&quot;In your day, did any of the flatu...</title><content type='html'>byker bob wrote:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;In your day, did any of the flatulent ones ever attempt to ignite their gas, or record it on their tape recorders?&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I can&#39;t recall that happening, although one of my first-year mates (who, BB, you knew because he also worked at the bindery--a fellow from Ohio of Italian nationality) had previously been at a Catholic seminary, and he said some of the seminary guys would try to ignite their gas, and that one of them was injured when the flame went, er, back into the source of the gas...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7476687615471598989'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7476687615471598989'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199969340000#c7476687615471598989' title=''/><author><name>camfinch</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15687305972492937862</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-924772092"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="11 January 2008 at 01:49"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-6694688272850478838</id><published>2008-01-10T19:38:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-10T19:38:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Good points Richard. I agree. Perhaps Stan can cor...</title><content type='html'>Good points Richard. I agree. Perhaps Stan can correct me, but I believe the point of &quot;selling below market value,&quot; and making money is understandable because the houses sold were originally gifts, therefore it isn&#39;t &quot;below value&quot; to to the recipient of the gift. And since the Ricipient received property he was not entitled to because the property actually was purchased with tithe money meant for something else, then there is a case for fraud or even embezelment.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bamboo Bends makes a good point, but until the anonymous source is identified I have to side with the group investigating Azusa-Pacific. There are to many coincidences in that area of WCG transactions to be ignored.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This much we know, WCG went on a spending spree and a selling spree at the same time. They pumped us up with illogical rationale about selling a billion dollar campus because we &quot;don&#39;t need it anymore.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Today, Russell Duke and at least three other high ranking WCG personnel are employed at APU. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tkach,Rogers,Fezeal, and others received PHD&#39;s from APU for doing nothing more than having books ghost written for them.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ambasssador pumped &quot;MILLIONS&quot; of dollars into APU. At the same time, APU went on a building and land acquisition spree. Public records show this for all to see.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Today, WCG sits just feet from APU land, if not directly on it. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tkach lied over and over again about the new location. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;APU was almost bankrupt in the early ninties and in fact held an emergency board meeting and replaced the entire board as was posted on their web site.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If Tkach didn&#39;t buy it, then he certainly invested in APU.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stan, I hope you keep digging. Though it doesn&#39;t matter, I sure hope the truth comes out so former WCG members will be vindicated. They didn&#39;t leave the Church, the Church was taken from them</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6694688272850478838'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6694688272850478838'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199947080000#c6694688272850478838' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10 January 2008 at 19:38"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-1493811236466078455</id><published>2008-01-10T18:53:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-10T18:53:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Camfinch,In your day, did any of the flatulent one...</title><content type='html'>Camfinch,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In your day, did any of the flatulent ones ever attempt to ignite their gas, or record it on their tape recorders?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I tell you, if the manpower committee had known half of the stuff that went on in the dorms!  At times I felt that the place should have been called Amgassador College!  None of this was ever hinted at or foretold by the Envoys or College Bulletin!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BB</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1493811236466078455'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1493811236466078455'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199944380000#c1493811236466078455' title=''/><author><name>Byker Bob</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10 January 2008 at 18:53"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-1535294757175094118</id><published>2008-01-10T13:10:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-10T13:10:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>D said...why is the first response to kill the mes...</title><content type='html'>&lt;I&gt;D said...&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;why is the first response to kill the messenger? the issue about APU and WCG is a REAL one!&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unless I am being lied to, the APU story is bogus.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Yet again, I reiterate, you&#39;re asking the wrong questions.   Ask the right questions and you are on to something.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unfortunately I don&#39;t know what that question is.  But I know when I am supposed to read between the lines.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1535294757175094118'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1535294757175094118'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199923800000#c1535294757175094118' title=''/><author><name>Bamboo_bends</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11064036099785125749</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='25' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_CQNYYhrEidY/R33DKeanfFI/AAAAAAAAACM/qlf8It_F8Js/S220/iStock_000003896272XSmall.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1035694250"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10 January 2008 at 13:10"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-1480717999265041286</id><published>2008-01-10T05:45:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-10T05:45:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>byker bob wrote:&quot;How could I have forgotten the ho...</title><content type='html'>byker bob wrote:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;How could I have forgotten the horrible flatus problem in all of the AC men&#39;s dorms??? I used to keep my Old Spice cologne right on my desktop for when some of the guys would get to going. We were constantly having dorm meetings about self-control, but it NEVER did any good. I wonder if this was also a problem in the women&#39;s dorms.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, it might be interesting to ask a couple of long-time women friends who were at AC when I was about how crude the women&#39;s dorms got...yeah, I just might have to ask them!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I was told by two or three of my Del Mar mates that one evening (I was somewhere else at the time) those two or three had been at their desks studying, but also engaging in a flatulence display.  They were shocked when one of the professors/ministers entered the formal living room just outside the study area!  The study windows were open, and my buddies were desperately trying to wave the scent of the room outside!  If the faculty guy (not sure who it was, maybe Bob Oberlander) detected anything, he didn&#39;t let on!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1480717999265041286'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1480717999265041286'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199897100000#c1480717999265041286' title=''/><author><name>camfinch</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15687305972492937862</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-924772092"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="10 January 2008 at 05:45"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-178180338641486972</id><published>2008-01-09T23:38:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T23:38:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>&quot;today, i am free of armstrongism, and i hope all ...</title><content type='html'>&quot;today, i am free of armstrongism, and i hope all who were ensnared can escape it. but the truth is that tkach and the boys took something that didn&#39;t belong to them and they lied to get it.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My read of what happened after the death of HWA is that the Tkach group emptied the church out in order to CASH OUT the WCG business. They probably knew that multiple unorganized groups would emerge that could not coordinate a consolidated challenge of the WCG asset liquidations that were designed to enrich the owners. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The WCG is a shell of its former self in order to provide employment income and &quot;something to do&quot; for a few people (hey, it beats working for a living), and also must continue to exist legally in order to collect on all those estates of members that I remember as a boy WCG ministers telling members annually to write WCG in their wills. You don&#39;t think there are some unchanged wills naming WCG as beneficiary after all these years? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tkach only followed the business philosophy of Herbert Armstrong which I have posted on this site several times : &quot;If you want to dine with the upper classes, you must lie to the masses&quot;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Richard</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/178180338641486972'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/178180338641486972'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199875080000#c178180338641486972' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 23:38"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-516360568015438091</id><published>2008-01-09T20:51:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T20:51:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Here&#39;s another currently active 1966 corporation, ...</title><content type='html'>Here&#39;s another currently active 1966 corporation, but with different numbers: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;RADIO CHURCH OF GOD&lt;BR/&gt;Number: C0519529  Date Filed: 12/22/1966  Status: active&lt;BR/&gt;Jurisdiction: California&lt;BR/&gt;Address&lt;BR/&gt;2011 E FINANCIAL WAY&lt;BR/&gt;GLENDORA, CA 91741&lt;BR/&gt;Agent for Service of Process&lt;BR/&gt;MATHEW MORGAN&lt;BR/&gt;2011 E FINANCIAL WAY&lt;BR/&gt;GLENDORA, CA 91741</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/516360568015438091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/516360568015438091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199865060000#c516360568015438091' title=''/><author><name>Stan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15189373275825472416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1746116830"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 20:51"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-1176398344139561271</id><published>2008-01-09T20:16:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T20:16:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>why is the first response to kill the messenger? t...</title><content type='html'>why is the first response to kill the messenger? the issue about APU and WCG is a REAL one!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i also went to cal sec. of state web site and it says wcg is a &quot;C&quot; corp. there isn&#39;t an &quot;F&quot; corp listed. http:kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowList.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;i don&#39;t pretend to have special knowledge, but all the roads have finally led to glendora,ca! there are legitimate questions to be answered!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stan is a very knowledgeable man and i hope he will keep digging here!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;as for APU dwarfing WCG, i think mike wallace spoke to that when he revealed that WCG took in more then $100 million a year for more than 10 years! Also, in the year following hwa&#39;s death, wcg pulled in a cool $250 million, its biggest year! APU could hardly touch that, and APU was a small struggling college with no financial backers who could match armstrong.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;the point is, something happened that triggered a massive and expensive P.R. campaign that was designed to have ONLY ONE EFFECT, &quot;empty the church!&quot; What that was i don&#39;t know, but the aftermath is sitting in glendora, ca.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;today, i am free of armstrongism, and i hope all who were ensnared can escape it. but the truth is that tkach and the boys took something that didn&#39;t belong to them and they lied to get it.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1176398344139561271'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1176398344139561271'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199862960000#c1176398344139561271' title=''/><author><name>d</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10198701062991199644</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-2018826466"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 20:16"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-7908112694338556186</id><published>2008-01-09T19:37:00.001+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T19:37:00.001+13:00</updated><title type='text'>That&#39;s funny. Here&#39;s a Matthew R Morgan who has an...</title><content type='html'>That&#39;s funny. Here&#39;s a Matthew R Morgan who has an &quot;R&quot; for a middle initial. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Matthew R &amp; Pamela J Morgan&lt;BR/&gt;1203 E Mountain View Ave Glendora, CA 91741-3147&lt;BR/&gt;phone number unavailable&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Will the real Mathew H. Morgan please stand up?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7908112694338556186'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7908112694338556186'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199860620001#c7908112694338556186' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 19:37"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-7641021650479575125</id><published>2008-01-09T19:37:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T19:37:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>After a bit more fact-checking.... (I have been as...</title><content type='html'>After a bit more fact-checking.... (I have been asked to withhold attribution for the following paragraphs, but it comes from a historically very reliable source).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Reading between the lines of what my friend wrote, it looks like our poster is making the same mistake those who started the receivership 1979 did, asking the wrong questions, in attempt to get court intervention going.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or as someone told me in 1996 about the whole receivership thing, &quot;....they went after public contractual transactions between HWA and Rader, yet never asked the real question, what was HWA doing with the money he was getting.... these people never ask the right questions&quot;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My source also makes a very good point about &quot;emptying the church&quot;.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The trick of course is asking the RIGHT questions.  WCGers and Ex-WCGers often don&#39;t think like HWA did and what he would use that money for....&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BTW Matthew Morgan was an AC student when I was a student.  A fairly nice guy, a bit like the Pacey character in Dawson&#39;s creek, very similar personality to that guy.  I guess he must be a lawyer now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;B&gt;My friend writes:&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;---------------------------&lt;BR/&gt;&amp;ldquo;.....rubbish (never understood why the make-believe artists equate selling things for “pennies on the dollar” especially after a protracted sales effort with being “flush with cash”, but the 1979 suit alleged liquidating assets below Fair Market Value in order to enrich the sellers). Go figure.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Also, a quick check with the Cal Secretary of State shows that the WCG corp is the same corp that was originally formed as the Radio Church of God in 2/20/1947. It is patently not a “C” corp but an “F” corp, though the author of the blog [posting] would be oblivious to the distinction.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for Azuza Pacific University being “for sale” or able to be purchased, you go try “purchasing” an active charity. The Ambassador Center at Azuz Pacific University is more than dwarfed by their other, long-standing programs (massive understatement). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;APU has been on the map in their sphere for quite some time.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Also, “emptying the church” is more of a prescription for maximizing opposition rather than minimizing it. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Member don’t vote on such issues, or hasn’t anyone noticed.&amp;rdquo;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7641021650479575125'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/7641021650479575125'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199860620000#c7641021650479575125' title=''/><author><name>Bamboo_bends</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11064036099785125749</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='25' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_CQNYYhrEidY/R33DKeanfFI/AAAAAAAAACM/qlf8It_F8Js/S220/iStock_000003896272XSmall.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1035694250"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 19:37"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2854972521692226599</id><published>2008-01-09T19:07:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T19:07:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>This one has me puzzled.Ambassador International C...</title><content type='html'>This one has me puzzled.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ambassador International Cultural Foundation is defunct, but I don&#39;t remember Tkach saying anything about forming a new &quot;Ambassador Foundation&quot; April 19, 1996, or Matthew Morgan mentioning it for that matter!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Corporation&lt;BR/&gt;AMBASSADOR FOUNDATION&lt;BR/&gt;Number: C1966789  Date Filed: 4/19/1996  Status: active&lt;BR/&gt;Jurisdiction: California&lt;BR/&gt;Address&lt;BR/&gt;2011 E FINANCIAL WAY&lt;BR/&gt;GLENDORA, CA 91741-4602&lt;BR/&gt;Agent for Service of Process&lt;BR/&gt;MATHEW MORGAN&lt;BR/&gt;2011 E FINANCIAL WAY&lt;BR/&gt;GLENDORA, CA 91741-4602&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stan</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/2854972521692226599'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/2854972521692226599'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199858820000#c2854972521692226599' title=''/><author><name>Stan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15189373275825472416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1746116830"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 19:07"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-6503362717905793638</id><published>2008-01-09T18:36:00.001+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T18:36:00.001+13:00</updated><title type='text'>I went to the California Secretary of State web li...</title><content type='html'>I went to the California Secretary of State web &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/list.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/A&gt;, and did the search for &quot;WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All those instances of &quot;Morgan&quot; as &quot;Agent for Service of Process&quot; have either the name &quot;MATHEW H MORGAN&quot; or &quot;MATHEW MORGAN&quot; &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, searching Google for that name shows no lawyers unless the spelling &quot;Matthew&quot; (with two t&#39;s) is used.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Here&#39;s a &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://www.nka.com/bio.aspx?AttorneyRef=205&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/A&gt; to a profile of a lawyer by that name.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Would it be legal for a lawyer to mis-spell his first name on paperwork for documents referenced above? I don&#39;t know, I&#39;d have to ask a lawyer, lol!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;What&#39;s &quot;clear&quot; to me is that in spite of Joe jr&#39;s rhetoric, the last thing he wants is to have the financial dealings of the church that he&#39;s dictator of made &quot;clear&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Transparency would be incriminating to him, so he clings to and promulgates a bunch more of the convoluted fiscal hiding.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6503362717905793638'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6503362717905793638'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199856960001#c6503362717905793638' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 18:36"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-3284418172925578552</id><published>2008-01-09T18:36:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T18:36:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Neo, Bamboo wrote: &quot;There are a dozen varieties of...</title><content type='html'>Neo, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Bamboo wrote: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&quot;There are a dozen varieties of “Worldwide Church of God,” and Mathew Morgan is the agent for service for 9 of them.&quot;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;My point was to clarify for him which of those 9 corporations he found in the listings was the first corporation formed by Armstrong. To my knowledge,  it was the California nonprofit church corporation formed in 1947. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All of the other Armstrong church corporations, college corporations, foundations were formed subsequent to that 1947 act. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Based on what he read at the California Secretary of State website, Bamboo then made a reference to Corporation Code section 6716(c) which deals generally with the dissolution of public nonprofit benefit corporations. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;More specific and germane to problems involving the WCG entities are the code sections covering the religious corporation, corporate sole, and unincorporated association forms of organization under California law.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Anyone can take a look at these corporate law California code sections online at findlaw.com&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How&#39;s that - any clearer? &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stan</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/3284418172925578552'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/3284418172925578552'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199856960000#c3284418172925578552' title=''/><author><name>Stan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15189373275825472416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1746116830"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 18:36"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-8638336060091280376</id><published>2008-01-09T18:24:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T18:24:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Camfinch,How could I have forgotten the horrible f...</title><content type='html'>Camfinch,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;How could I have forgotten the horrible flatus problem in all of the AC men&#39;s dorms???  I used to keep my Old Spice cologne right on my desktop for when some of the guys would get to going.  We were constantly having dorm meetings about self-control, but it NEVER did any good.  I wonder if this was also a problem in the women&#39;s dorms.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;It must have been hilarious for eavesdropping ministers when HWA had all of the dorms on campus electronically bugged.  They&#39;d be listening in for the latest subversive activity, and hear what Chaucer might have called &quot;rolling thunderclaps&quot; instead.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BB</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/8638336060091280376'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/8638336060091280376'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199856240000#c8638336060091280376' title=''/><author><name>Byker Bob</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 18:24"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-354966755042379509</id><published>2008-01-09T18:00:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T18:00:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>BB, There are three main sections of the Californi...</title><content type='html'>BB, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There are three main sections of the California Corporation Code that govern the WCG church affiliated entities under discussion;  generally, see these sections and subsections of the California Code: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;California Corporations Code: &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Section 9000 - Dealing with California Nonprofit Religious  Corporations&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;9620-9621 Amendment of Articles&lt;BR/&gt;9680-Dissolution of the Nonprofit Religious Corporation  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Section 10000-10015 Corporation Sole&lt;BR/&gt;10012- Procedures involving Dissolution of the Corporate Sole&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Section 18000-18020 Unincorporated Associations&lt;BR/&gt;18410-18420 Dissolution of the Unincorporated Association&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;This unincorporated association section deals with unincorporated associations. As in for instance, WCG corporate bylaws with particularity refer to another entity &quot;The WCG, an unincorporated association&quot;. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The unincorporated association has control over the whole ball of wax - the nonprofit church corporation, the college, the foundation, ect. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;That can change. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Tkach has stated in the latest WCG policy manual these unincorporated association bylaws which make him Pastor General over the association are supposed to be modified, but so far Armstrong&#39;s original bylaws for the unincorporated association have yet to be disclosed.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stan</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/354966755042379509'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/354966755042379509'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199854800000#c354966755042379509' title=''/><author><name>Stan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15189373275825472416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1746116830"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 18:00"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-3967654480472602413</id><published>2008-01-09T17:27:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T17:27:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Stan: Is there a chance that you could redraft thi...</title><content type='html'>Stan:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; Is there a chance that you could redraft this post.  I read it twice and I can only speculate on what you are trying to convey.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; This is meant to be constructive.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;-- Neo</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/3967654480472602413'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/3967654480472602413'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199852820000#c3967654480472602413' title=''/><author><name>Neotherm</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06546163563669263135</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='29' height='32' src='http://bp2.blogger.com/_LXDnrwR39cI/R3mnn3uEnKI/AAAAAAAAAAM/G2tIpfCk1qk/S220/neo.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-460138404"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 17:27"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-1586587579430289657</id><published>2008-01-09T16:28:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T16:28:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>BB, Here following is the listing for the mother o...</title><content type='html'>BB, &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Here following is the listing for the mother of all WCG corporations that were formed after that, the California WCG  Religious Corporation formed in 1947 by Armstrong. This is the corporation the Painful Truth website has most of the the change in constitutions and articles documented made over the years by Armstrong, including the unexplained questionable voting method the WCG board recorded,   approving changing the name from Radio Church of God to Worldwide Church of God:  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;WORLDWIDE CHURCH OF GOD&lt;BR/&gt;Number: C0214334  Date Filed: 2/20/1947  Status: active&lt;BR/&gt;Jurisdiction: California&lt;BR/&gt;Address&lt;BR/&gt;2011 E FINANCIAL WAY&lt;BR/&gt;GLENDORA, CA 91741-4602&lt;BR/&gt;Agent for Service of Process&lt;BR/&gt;MATHEW H MORGAN&lt;BR/&gt;2011 E FINANCIAL WAY&lt;BR/&gt;GLENDORA, CA 91741-4602&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Most of the other corporations there on the list were formed as California corporations under Tkach for the churches in those cities and states within the last decade, and have Matthew Morgan down as the agent for service of process on those corporations.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Stan</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1586587579430289657'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/1586587579430289657'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199849280000#c1586587579430289657' title=''/><author><name>Stan</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15189373275825472416</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1746116830"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 16:28"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-6459542375971423116</id><published>2008-01-09T12:22:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T12:22:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>The California Secretary of State is where you wan...</title><content type='html'>The California Secretary of State is where you want to look:  &lt;BR/&gt;http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/corp/corp_irc.htm#geninfo&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Here’s the search page: http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/list.html&lt;BR/&gt;There are a dozen varieties of “Worldwide Church of God,” and Mathew Morgan is the agent for service for 9 of them.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unfortunately there’s not a lot of information available.  The first link explains what is and isn’t public record in California.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Under how to dissolve a corporation:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.sos.ca.gov/business/corp/corp_faq.htm&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If the dissolving corporation is a nonprofit public benefit or religious corporation, the Certificate of Dissolution must also be accompanied by a letter issued by the Attorney General that either waives objections to the distribution of the corporation&#39;s assets pursuant to Corporations Code section 6716(c) or confirms that the corporation has no assets. A written request for the required letter can be mailed to the Office of the Attorney General - Registrar of Charitable Trusts at P.O. Box 903447, Sacramento, California 94203-4470. Questions regarding the issuance of the required letter must be directed to the Office of the Attorney General - Registrar of Charitable Trusts at (916) 445-2021.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6459542375971423116'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/6459542375971423116'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199834520000#c6459542375971423116' title=''/><author><name>Bamboo_bends</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11064036099785125749</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='25' src='http://bp3.blogger.com/_CQNYYhrEidY/R33DKeanfFI/AAAAAAAAACM/qlf8It_F8Js/S220/iStock_000003896272XSmall.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1035694250"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 12:22"/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-9028867527186016213</id><published>2008-01-09T08:30:00.000+13:00</published><updated>2008-01-09T08:30:00.000+13:00</updated><title type='text'>Maybe we should call it Manor Del Marred</title><content type='html'>Maybe we should call it Manor Del Marred</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/9028867527186016213'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/2396787703275166661/comments/default/9028867527186016213'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html?showComment=1199820600000#c9028867527186016213' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://ambassadorwatch.blogspot.com/2008/01/tales-from-herbal-manor.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28426681.post-2396787703275166661' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/28426681/posts/default/2396787703275166661' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.itemClass" value="pid-1287493850"/><gd:extendedProperty name="blogger.displayTime" value="9 January 2008 at 08:30"/></entry></feed>