Comments on Ambassador Watch: Samoan Tsunami

WCG-A is still alive and kicking? I thought that f...

2009-10-02T22:01:31.558+13:00

WCG-A is still alive and kicking? I thought that festering cess-pit of wanton, rampant evangelism of the very worst kind, had closed up shop.

Sorry to hear it's thriving. Although that would explain the recent influx of evangelism over here, if they're patting themselves on the back about preaching to the pagans......

"We've tried to get Flurry and Pack's...

2009-10-02T21:58:53.180+13:00

"We've tried to get Flurry and Pack's advertisements banned from popping up on our profiles, but it seems that YUKU is unwilling to honor our requests. YUKU is set up in such a manner as to target ads specifically to topics discussed in its family of forums. Recently we had a discussion on interracial dating, and pop-up ads began appearing on our profiles for such dating sites."

B/C interracial dating sites are JUST AS BAD as That Prophet and the Packatollah

shine on you crazy diamond shine on

I can almost hear it now: "no church members...

2009-10-02T18:11:39.227+13:00

I can almost hear it now:
"no church members were hurt, and one member, even though his home was destroyed and his family scattered, still managed to walk, 3 days, to keep the Feast of Tabernacles."

Byker Bob, Good defense Bob, and I understand tot...

2009-10-02T15:02:43.149+13:00

Byker Bob,

Good defense Bob, and I understand totally. My lying eyes don't get it but my brain does.

You won't see my profile over there, I guarantee that. I don't want my profile associated with HWA anywhere on the Internet.

What are ya'll doing for Samoa over there anyway? Have you heard about the recent Indonesian tragedy? Over 500 people have died.

Just thought I'd let you know in case you might want to actually do something.

Psssst. Prayer doesn't feed the hungry nor comfort the affected and grieving families. It really doesn't, just thought I'd let you know.

Corky, We've tried to get Flurry and Pack'...

2009-10-02T09:35:02.390+13:00

Corky,

We've tried to get Flurry and Pack's advertisements banned from popping up on our profiles, but it seems that YUKU is unwilling to honor our requests. YUKU is set up in such a manner as to target ads specifically to topics discussed in its family of forums. Recently we had a discussion on interracial dating, and pop-up ads began appearing on our profiles for such dating sites.

As I've always stated in all my postings from day 1, I consider HWA to be a false prophet, a pawn of Satan, a horrible incestuous drunk with nothing of value to offer to humanity in any way, shape, or form.

BB

Anonymous said... ‘Lifenets is not part of UCG. T...

2009-10-01T23:07:33.174+13:00

Anonymous said...
‘Lifenets is not part of UCG. There has always been hostility from UCG leadership towards Lifenets because .... well, I'm not entirely sure.’

Lifenets is separately incorporated to UCG – that much is true. But when just about all the people/churches working in the projects and supporting Lifenets are UCG, then is it realistic to say that it’s nothing to do with UCG?

It may not officially be part of UCG, but it is clearly is almost entirely a UCG effort. To claim otherwise is to be deliberately ignoring the obvious facts.

I think there is some truth that a few in UCG are not happy with Lifenets. But isn’t that their problem rather than yours?

Victor Kubic, the main ’power’ behind it has and is on the UCG council of elders – in other words part of the main leadership of UCG. I think this shows that any feeling against him is obviously not that strong, and doesn’t represent the general feeling of UCG.

If what you quote was in a sermon released for general distribution, I never heard it. Can I ask are you doing an actual word for word quote, or is this your general memory of it?

There is a vast difference between the exact wording you used, and a general sentiment that those that died will still get to understand the truth of God, that their opportunity for eternal life has not passed with their death.

That sentiment I suggest is a positive outlook – your exact wording turns it into something else, which is why I query it.

Interested in your comments – but I am off to my personal ‘Haj’, as Gavin puts it, so may not get to comment on your reply!

Since this thread has sank to Byker Bob's thre...

2009-10-01T19:24:13.338+13:00

Since this thread has sank to Byker Bob's thread over at the alumni forum - I thought I would point out that his profile shows that: ARMSTRONG WAS RIGHT!

Meanwhile, back in reality, American Samoa has suffered a tragic event. wherever donations and other help is being organized, I would like to encourage you to join with me in providing whatever you can afford in relief of this situation.

Those folks are in dire need of your support and talk of religion and your prayers are not going to provide it.

Lifenets is not part of UCG. There has always bee...

2009-10-01T18:04:20.806+13:00

Lifenets is not part of UCG. There has always been hostility from UCG leadership towards Lifenets because .... well, I'm not entirely sure. Jealousy? They view it as a threat competing for tithe dollars (which is true)? The latter is most likely.

There was indeed a UCG minister who stated exactly what I quoted. And that tape was mailed out to congregations across the country, which means someone in Cincinnati felt that sermon was representative of the organization's position.

Leonardo said... ....It may give you just a littl...

2009-10-01T13:09:38.107+13:00

Leonardo said...

....It may give you just a little most prestige with the subjects you will otherwise beat up with your “rod of iron.” I mean, Your Majesty, really…

“abbys” instead of abyss

“mellenium” instead of millennium

“rebellous” instead of rebellious

And then you folks wonder WHY people don’t take your comments like this seriously.

"We don't need no learnin' we got the Wholey Bile!"

It was good to see a relatively moderate comment f...

2009-10-01T12:18:25.898+13:00

It was good to see a relatively moderate comment from Bob.

I was shaking my head all day yesterday at the nonsense of him providing pre-conditions for the proof of god.

So, we can only prove god doesn't exist by using the bible? Oh, now which bible are we going to use for that? Which one of the hundreds out there is god's bible?

Armstrongite cultists always seem to go into orgas...

2009-10-01T10:51:04.265+13:00

Armstrongite cultists always seem to go into orgasmic delight at the mere mention of a world disaster. It turn's them on to see death and destruction. It props up the lunatic rantings of their leaders and makes them look 'credible'. Armstrong's 'god' is a god of vengeance sitting up there with an itchy finger waiting for any opportunity to kill off all the 'evil' people of the world. Armstrongite cultists cannot fathom an unconditional grace filled God who is not itching to kill off his creation. That's the God I follow as I delightfully enjoy a wonderful meal on this so called Armstrongite 'day of atonement.'

"Byker Bob’s “Bible folder” site" So? W...

2009-10-01T10:18:48.475+13:00

"Byker Bob’s “Bible folder” site"

So? Who won the pool?

Anonymous said... I can't wait till he ge...

2009-10-01T10:00:51.111+13:00

Anonymous said...

I can't wait till he gets rid of that blamed sea (Rev 21:1)! Hey, wait a minute; it just occurred to me--a NEW TRUTH! There won't be any islands 'cause there won't be any sea!!!

Without the sea there is no people either. The oceans are the lungs and temperature regulator of the planet.

What people seem to miss between the lines in the Bible was the sea was greatly feared in ancient days. It was viewed as the abyss, the underworld full of demonic creatures.

I heard once that the stories of giant squid attacking small boats full of people might not have been so far fetched. Such stories stopped being reported in history about the time the propeller was invented.

The story goes that squid are known to be at least as smart as whales and dolphins, and communicate to each other via flashing changing color patterns in their skins light emitting photophores to other squid. Its a faster means of speaking than our language. It seems the last reported case of a giant squid attacking a boat, it was against a steam powered propeller ship, the propeller cut the squids arms off.

The theory is that squid apparently communicated to other giant squid that boats were no longer easy pickings for meat, and they could lose their arms, which I imagine they value very much.

Don't know if its true, but its make for a great tale! It also explains the persistence of sea monster tales among ancient mariners.

Anonymous said... Gavin You took Dr Theil...

2009-10-01T09:43:03.982+13:00

Anonymous said...

Gavin
You took Dr Theil to task because he states what the bile says...

Gavin said...

...my favourite - bile instead of bible!

That was hilarious!

"Out of the abundance of the heart doth the mouth speak..."?

Anonymous Thu Oct 01, 01:29:00 said... “And, for ...

2009-10-01T09:27:17.413+13:00

Anonymous Thu Oct 01, 01:29:00 said...

“And, for the record, it was UCG's response to the 2004 tsunami that ultimately convinced me to leave United.”

Really, that is amazing.

Isn’t ‘Anonymous’ aware of the work that UCG did in helping the victims of the tsunami?

Maybe try reading through www.lifenets.org/tsunami which documents the house and boat reconstruction project in Sri Lanka.

Independent Samoa (distinct from American Samoa) h...

2009-10-01T09:22:30.650+13:00

Independent Samoa (distinct from American Samoa) has a large diaspora resident in NZ - at least 115,000. The population back in the homeland is around 177,000.
Samoans are deeply religious. Their culture is embedded with Christian tradition, family unity and respect for elders. They will need practical assistance and prayers to help them get back onto their feet.

"...and everything good mankind cannot achiev...

2009-10-01T08:49:02.724+13:00

"...and everything good mankind cannot achieve without God."

I think we did all right with open heart surgery and space travel.

The Apostate Paul

Leo, I do not own that site. I simply moderate o...

2009-10-01T08:41:25.455+13:00

Leo,

I do not own that site. I simply moderate one folder for the owner.

And, we are a comparatively literate group there. We've occasionally needed to use "sic" when re-quoting some posters, but probably not any more than is needed here on AW.

BB

Hmm. You missed my favourite - bile instead of bib...

2009-10-01T08:17:21.377+13:00

Hmm. You missed my favourite - bile instead of bible!

Anonymous 3:41, you must really be looking forward...

2009-10-01T08:13:19.667+13:00

Anonymous 3:41, you must really be looking forward in eager anticipation to the Feast of Tabernacles this year, as I can just envision the veins in your neck and temple area just THROBBING out wildly in RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION as you wrote your extremely ungrammatical above post. (Go ahead and just read it over again, very slowly, now that it’s been posted here.)

But before you start your kingly millennial reign in the World Tomorrow, you might consider using spell-check. It may give you just a little most prestige with the subjects you will otherwise beat up with your “rod of iron.” I mean, Your Majesty, really…

“abbys” instead of abyss

“mellenium” instead of millennium

“rebellous” instead of rebellious

And then you folks wonder WHY people don’t take your comments like this seriously.

But there IS hope – you can always post over on Byker Bob’s “Bible folder” site, as I’m pretty sure the standards for basic legible English will not be nearly as high over there.

Natural disasters provide the true Christian with ...

2009-10-01T07:57:20.783+13:00

Natural disasters provide the true Christian with an opportunity to apply the lessons of the parable of the Good Samaritan. It truly saddens me that some church groups we all know about would exploit them for the purpose of their own empire building.

BB

I work in the telecommunications industry, and my ...

2009-10-01T06:17:31.615+13:00

I work in the telecommunications industry, and my work cubicle is located in front and just to the side of a huge "mission control" big screen display area, where we have CNN, MSNBC and the Weather Channel always up and running so we can monitor world events that could potentially impact telephone services, etc.

Anyway, as I write this comment the latest I’ve seen on CNN is that there have been at least 99 confirmed fatalities thus far in Samoa. They said the earthquake that triggered the tsunami was a 8.0 – which is one HUGE quake.

Apparently, four tsunami waves about 15 to 20 feet (4 to 6 meters) in height hit Samoa about 15 minutes after the quake, reaching up to a mile (1.5 kilometers) inland.

And once again, the “evil and despised” Americans are the FIRST ones to respond with emergency relief, food, medicine, a makeshift morgue, and other aid via military transports. Many other nations where religious belief reigns supreme – well, they’ll be passively praying for the folks affected by this tragedy.

I can't wait till he gets rid of that blamed s...

2009-10-01T05:52:28.001+13:00

I can't wait till he gets rid of that blamed sea (Rev 21:1)! Hey, wait a minute; it just occurred to me--a NEW TRUTH! There won't be any islands 'cause there won't be any sea!!!

The Gavmeister noted: " The guy is obviously...

2009-10-01T04:38:15.111+13:00

The Gavmeister noted:

" The guy is obviously a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic."

now that's funny....

Gavin You took Dr Theil to task because he states...

2009-10-01T03:41:59.562+13:00

Gavin
You took Dr Theil to task because he states what the bile says about the islands and mountains being destroyed. We are about to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles I don't know if you have forgotten the meaning of these days but let me remind you.The Feast of Trumpets pictures the time of Christ return during a time of great wars that is the tribulation, ten days later on the Atonement The Angel will bind satan and his demons throw them into the abbys for a thousand years. Then comes Tabernacles when the mellenium begins, this time of restoration of all things and we ressurected saints will rule with Christ to bring peace, beauty and everything good mankind cannot achieve without God. This is the lesson that people will learn from six thousand years of evil and darkness.Why six thousand years because that how long it will take for rebellous humans to finally humble themselves before their maker.