Comments on Ambassador Watch: Lisbon 1755

Mel,OK, point granted. Checking things out is a g...

2008-05-12T16:04:00.000+12:00

Mel,

OK, point granted. Checking things out is a good idea.

The SDA Sam B. had some doubts about Hurricane Katrina being punishment from God, since it seemed to do more damage to SDA institutions in New Orleans than to the gay areas of the city.

Sam B. assumed that the SDAs were the innocent good guys in the story. It probably did not even occur to him that the SDA church is so full of official and unofficial sins that maybe God considered it to be a more important target right now than the "funny boys."

Ha ha ha ...

Anonymous May 11, 07:41:00 AM,Well, use all the ex...

2008-05-12T15:46:00.000+12:00

Anonymous May 11, 07:41:00 AM,

Well, use all the exclamation points you'd like.

Perhaps I used too many "ha-ha's" in response to your comment, but I've just seen so much 'bad journalism' in people trying to make such points.
And it's sad to see people willing to repeat things they hear from others, to support their own ideas, without checking to see if what they've heard really holds up to scrutiny, although it's a common occurrence.

When I see things like Falwell and others declaring that the Katrina devastation was the direct result of gayness and other 'sins' in New Orleans, I just shake my head and think Falwell must believe in a god who can't pinpoint his targets too well.
That, or Falwell is a despicable character capitalizing on disasters.

Anonymous! Dude! Remember, there's something calle...

2008-05-11T07:41:00.000+12:00

Anonymous! Dude! Remember, there's something called "reality", which you may want to check out.
Ha ha ha!

Mel

Mel,

Why do I suspect that when things start to get bad, you will start to keep quiet--just in case. Seven times over I laugh back at at you, with three exclamation points. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

How could anyone think that the 1755 Lisbon earthq...

2008-05-08T09:21:00.000+12:00

How could anyone think that the 1755 Lisbon earthquake had anything to do with prophecy? Everyone knows it was caused by global warming!

Gavin:Thankyou, I get the McPicture :-)Jacob's Tro...

2008-05-07T15:51:00.000+12:00

Gavin:
Thankyou, I get the McPicture :-)
Jacob's Trouble stuff I can do without.....

Kiwi:A new publication takes cog nuttiness, shall ...

2008-05-07T15:18:00.000+12:00

Kiwi:

A new publication takes cog nuttiness, shall we say, to the max. But I have no particular agenda in mind.

Not keen on giving this particular feat free publicitity, but if you drop me an email I'll supply details :)

Gavin,What would we do without you?You are indeed ...

2008-05-07T14:58:00.000+12:00

Gavin,

What would we do without you?

You are indeed a source of ILLUMINATION and enlightenment in this darkened world.

Keep up the good work.

Jorgheinz

Gavin, what is the new badly-produced kiwi COG pub...

2008-05-07T13:19:00.000+12:00

Gavin, what is the new badly-produced kiwi COG publication, please? Enquiring minds, and all that...

"Lisbon has a lesson for all of us: human sufferin...

2008-05-07T04:03:00.000+12:00

"Lisbon has a lesson for all of us: human suffering is meant to be relieved, not exploited."

*applause*

>>>Among the literature I have read for this newsl...

2008-05-07T03:17:00.000+12:00

>>>Among the literature I have read for this newsletter, I came across some shocking stories of disasters that appear to be a divine response to blasphemous insults against God.<<<

Ha ha ha! Forgot to post a link?!
SHOCKING!!!
Do you believe EVERYTHING that comes from an SDA apologist? Or only what you want to believe?
Ha ha ha! I assume you found EXCELLENT references for this "information"!
Ha ha ha!

What's next? Someone posting stuff about the huckster Ron Wyatt who threw a old wheel into the water and then "found" the wheel and announced it as PROOF of a Red Sea crossing? Or posting about Wyatt finding the Ark of the Covenant?
Ha ha ha!

Anonymous! Dude! Remember, there's something called "reality", which you may want to check out.
Ha ha ha!

Only a cultic and antiquated "god" would talk to h...

2008-05-07T00:03:00.000+12:00

Only a cultic and antiquated "god" would talk to humans about his feelings with weather and geological processes. Of course,"he" is restricted to the seasons and same eternal geological processes when he expresses his displeasure.

He's not man enough to talk to us face to face and is not given to sending unexpected blessings to whole peoples.

Yeah, yeah and James Caviezel was struck by lighte...

2008-05-06T16:11:00.000+12:00

Yeah, yeah and James Caviezel was struck by lightening three times during the filming of "The Passion of the Christ".

Time and chance and all that.

Consider this: All the Armstrongist leaders who made outrageous false prophecies so far have been wrong. Why should we ever trust them again?

And what else did they get wrong?

There's no sense listening to them any longer unless it is for entertainment purposes.

There's never any real consistency to these things -- except, of course, the failures of the Armstrongists to ever predict one thing completely right.

From the website of the SDA Sam B.: Does God Resp...

2008-05-06T14:32:00.000+12:00

From the website of the SDA Sam B.:

Does God Respond to Blasphemous Insults?

Among the literature I have read for this newsletter, I came across some shocking stories of disasters that appear to be a divine response to blasphemous insults against God. I was planning to post several reports, including one about the TITANIC. But for the sake of brevity I will share only one report from my own country of Italy.

In the early morning (about 5:30 a. m.) of December 28, 1908, the Monday after the Christmas weekend, a major tsunami earthquake totally destroyed Messina (population 150,000), Reggio Calabria (population 50,000), and dozens of smaller nearby towns. This was the deadliest earthquake in European history with an estimated 120,000 fatalities.

Three days before the earthquake, on Christmas evening of December 25, 1908, a group of unbelievers staged in the Messina public theater, an obscene and sacreligous parody of Christ’s birth in Bethlehem. The following day, December 26, a group of citizens assembled to insult God by decreeing the abolishment of the Christian religion.

On a similar vein, the Messina newspaper Il Telefono, published on December 25, this blasphemous poem on its Christmas edition:

Mio piccolo bambino
vero uomo. vero Dio
Per amore della croce
rispondi alla nostra voce:
se tu non sei veramente un Mito,
schiacciaci sotto un terremoto.

Translated into English the poem reads:

My small child
true man, true God
For the sake of the Cross
answer back to our voice:
if you truly are not a Myth,
crush us under an earthquake.

Three days later the most destructive earthquake in European history, crushed under collapsed building over 120,000 people in Messina and neighboring cities. Was such a destructive earthquake God’s response to the blasphemous insults levelled against Him? No one can tell for sure, but we cannot discount such a possibility.

Ronnie the Terrible is an after the event profit, ...

2008-05-06T13:34:00.000+12:00

Ronnie the Terrible is an after the event profit, oops Prophet.
For example the recent 5.2 madrid fault earthquake,seismologist estimate every 200 yrs. the fault has a major quake. If their is one Ronnie, Gerald, Rod, Dave will be quick to claim the crown of chief prophet and profit.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Weather-is-Not-Gods-Judg...

2008-05-06T06:41:00.000+12:00

http://ezinearticles.com/?Weather-is-Not-Gods-Judgement...-Its-Weather&id=90653

Try this as a concept.

"Lisbon has a lesson for all of us: human sufferin...

2008-05-06T06:36:00.000+12:00

"Lisbon has a lesson for all of us: human suffering is meant to be relieved, not exploited."

Excellent concept! Fundamentalists exploit natural world events and processes to falsely point to the second coming. It is the eternal carrot.

LCG and Bob Thiel do it with weather and earthquakes as well. These are natural processes that humans have ignorantly explained as the wrath of god for thousands of years.

You can get in the way of spring weather or an earthquake, but it is just being in the naturally wrong place at the wrong time.

Thousands killed in SE Asia by a monsoon is "normal" for the area. Get in the way and you may die.

LCG and Weinland are notorious for reading weather and earth science as from God. It is stupid, ignorant and meaningingless.

Matthew 24 is a ignorant statment of normal events totally unrelated to God anything.