Comments on Ambassador Watch: Weinland's End Time Dance

OMG!!! I have believed in him..for My God...over a...

2008-12-01T19:06:00.000+13:00

OMG!!! I have believed in him..for My God...over a month...he had the power to change my belief

"You are a....blah blah blah blah blah di blah bla...

2008-11-20T17:16:00.000+13:00

"You are a....blah blah blah blah blah di blah blah blah blech"

Well, there's someone who wasn't around for Timeline #1, clearly. After all, we're supposed to be a quarter of the way through the Great Tribulation at this point!

Sorry to hear you got recruited between the multiplying false histories, anon.

You are a child of the devil and an enemy of every...

2008-11-19T05:08:00.000+13:00

You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? Acts 13:10.

Here is the ultimate Ronald Weinland photo you can...

2008-11-18T11:48:00.000+13:00

Here is the ultimate Ronald Weinland photo you can use for your screamsaver until you get the IRS photo.

"Weinland's words are poison for the soul."That is...

2008-11-18T10:53:00.000+13:00

"Weinland's words are poison for the soul."

That is the best one sentence comment I have ever read about Ronald Weinland.

Ron will never stop. When he is proven false agai...

2008-11-17T14:26:00.000+13:00

Ron will never stop. When he is proven false again....he will tell the "unsealed" members they are the problem. They will accept his decision and try their hardest to "get closer to God". He will continue as he has been going and average enough of an income to "make it" to the end. The only other scenario is the IRS carting him off to jail. That photo (if I ever got it) would be my screen saver on my computer.
:)

You don't need a PHD to know that the Krebs cycle ...

2008-11-17T14:06:00.000+13:00

You don't need a PHD to know that the Krebs cycle was invented in the 60's by Maynard G. Krebs and started by saying the word "work," to Maynard and ended with him repeating it and passing out.

Anyone should know this basic scientific reality.

I sent Weinland an offer of $50,000 cash now for t...

2008-11-17T04:24:00.000+13:00

I sent Weinland an offer of $50,000 cash now for the deeds of his house, church and property, delivery in four years. Since he so sure that in that time they will all be gone, I am surprised he has not responded.

It appears Weinland has removed all sermons from h...

2008-11-17T01:51:00.000+13:00

It appears Weinland has removed all sermons from his website other than his own. It's all about him, isn't it.

Weinland's words are poison for the soul.

2008-11-17T01:44:00.000+13:00

Weinland's words are poison for the soul.

Anonymous 8:42 said:I'd hope that when Weinland is...

2008-11-16T02:58:00.000+13:00

Anonymous 8:42 said:
I'd hope that when Weinland is booted on 1-1-09 (due to irrefutable false prophecy and deception) that Wayne Matthews take over. I don't think he will offer anything more than Weinland, but he certainly sounds better in his sermons. Compared to him, Weinland is an amateur. Matthews is a much better witness than Weinland, hands down.

Refail Ron is already irrefutably proven a False Prophet and Deceiver yet people still follow him. No one is going to boot him out, other than possibly the IRS CID. When his second timeline fails long enough, he'll either roll out timeline #3 or just spiritualize it away. He won't leave his pulpit until either he's taken away in handcuffs or it's pried from his cold dead hands. And it will be quite some time after Jan 1 before that happens.

As far as Matthews, I don't get the impression that he has the force of personality to hold this house of cards together.

Leonardo, Apparently not.

2008-11-15T18:51:00.000+13:00

Leonardo,
Apparently not.

Nice evasion, Larry, but I think most of us have y...

2008-11-15T11:10:00.000+13:00

Nice evasion, Larry, but I think most of us have you figured out.

I think Larry was last published in the "Worldwide...

2008-11-15T10:38:00.000+13:00

I think Larry was last published in the "Worldwide Church of God Journal of Molecular Scientism."

Here is a sampling of his contributions:

"Lack of Scientific Evidence Supports Theory of Jehovic-Creationism"

and

"Evolution, Smevolution"

Paul Ray

pH, One with a sense of humor, perhaps?You may not...

2008-11-15T09:25:00.000+13:00

pH,
One with a sense of humor, perhaps?

You may not know what this is. But, it can be an asset when reading some of these posts.

I'd hope that when Weinland is booted on 1-1-09 (d...

2008-11-15T08:42:00.000+13:00

I'd hope that when Weinland is booted on 1-1-09 (due to irrefutable false prophecy and deception) that Wayne Matthews take over. I don't think he will offer anything more than Weinland, but he certainly sounds better in his sermons. Compared to him, Weinland is an amateur. Matthews is a much better witness than Weinland, hands down.

Larry, how have my simple inquiries been interpret...

2008-11-15T07:20:00.000+13:00

Larry, how have my simple inquiries been interpreted by you as insulting?

Honestly, that wasn't my intention at all - I just was being up front with you that your reasoning and written expressions on this blogsite seem considerably BELOW that of someone of your supposed intellectual pedigree.

And I noticed you still didn't answer my question about the Krebs Cycle - which Libro 66 did.

This is a useful habit of mine that I have found very helpful in discussion with folks, especially when they make verbal claims that seem far in excess of their actual reasoning ability: just ask a simple question about a simple area in their proclaimed field of expertise, and see how they respond. When they indeed actually have the background they claim, they answer the inquiry in a very straightforward and non-defensive manner. But I’d say nine times out of ten, when they attempt to evade doing so and get all defensive and act insulted, they are phonies.

Have you ever wondered what the 12-year-old boy Jesus was asking the religious gurus of his time when he stayed behind in Jerusalem after his folds had left? Perhaps he was using this same method.

I am beginning to think that Larry doesn't have a ...

2008-11-15T06:13:00.000+13:00

I am beginning to think that Larry doesn't have a degree in the biological sciences at all.

Paul Ray

"I have a wife and kids for that."That's not very ...

2008-11-14T23:00:00.000+13:00

"I have a wife and kids for that."

That's not very Christian of you Larry. Remember, you're supposed to be "the head over the household". You're not supposed to just take insults from the wife and kids! What kind of WCG member are you really??

Libro, I am impressed.And as for you, Leonardo, if...

2008-11-14T18:23:00.000+13:00

Libro, I am impressed.

And as for you, Leonardo, if I want to be insulted, I don't have to come here. I have a wife and kids for that.

"So, now that I've described the Krebs cycle, alon...

2008-11-14T15:44:00.000+13:00

"So, now that I've described the Krebs cycle, along with the context that it fits into, does that qualify me to discuss biological matters with you, even without a degree in the field? Would it be enough to qualify Larry?"

Libro, you've got quite the memory. I can't even describe the steps involved with the electron transport chain without aid, even though I should be able to. I don't know about Leo, but I am not challenging Larry's credentials and knowledge as a litmus test to whether I will deign to engage in some sort of debate with him- it was he who slung his intellecutal phallus on the table first, with his "I am probably the most well educated here so ha-ha." Yet for the most educated person here, his view on evolution is classic case low level Kreationist-website bluster.

Paul Ray

"The major advances of mankind have been achieved ...

2008-11-14T15:36:00.000+13:00

"The major advances of mankind have been achieved by folks who could think outside the box. And they were often ridiculed for doing so."

Thinking "outside the box" doesn't mean accepting imaginary beings as a plausible factor in your hypothesis. Don't try to equivocate delusional fancy with imaginative critical thinking.

And I would bet that not one of those major advances came by way of "maybe God did it!"

P.S. I don't recall taking you to task over your identity- I don't care. I just am interested in your degree and whether you published work, that's all.

Paul Ray

Aw, come on, Leonardo -- what kind of test questio...

2008-11-14T12:04:00.000+13:00

Aw, come on, Leonardo -- what kind of test question is that? I'm not a biologist or even a chemist, and even I know what the Krebs cycle is!

The Krebs cycle is the second phase of the three-phase system of cellular respiration, the process by which the energy of a glucose molecule is extracted and used to energize the phosphate groups of the energy carrier adenosine triphosphate (ATP).

(By "energize" I mean that the ADP ("diphosphate") molecule is given an additional phosphate group ("triphosphate"), which stores energy in the molecule. When needed, ATP gives up that extra phosphate, releasing the energy.)

The first phase, glycolosis, breaks up the glucose molecule into two smaller pieces. In the process, it frees up enough energy to energize four ATP molecules (if memory serves), along with a few other transitional energy carriers, notably NAD.

The energized NAD(H) carriers go into the Krebs cycle, which as I recall is a 9- or 10-step process. This results in more ATP molecules being energized, and the de-energized NAD molecules can return to the glycolosis phase to be reused.

Interestingly, simpler organisms such as yeast don't have a Krebs cycle, so they have to recycle their NAD some other way. Yeast does it by wasting NAD(H)'s energy on the glycolosis by-products to create alcohol.

The third phase of cellular respiration, whose name I don't immediately recall, takes place in the folds of the mitochondrial membranes. Some of the other transitional energy carriers donate positively charged hydrogen ions to a pocket in the membrane, which creates an electrical gradient across the membrane -- the protons want to fall back to the other side, and that means energy. As a protein gate allows the ions to dribble through the membrane, it energizes a few more ATP molecules.

All told, cellular respiration is something like 20% efficient -- the other 80% of the energy released from a glucose molecule is wasted as heat and chemical by-products.

Don't worry, I didn't cheat by sneaking a look at Wikipedia. In fact, since this is from memory, some of the details are almost certainly wrong.

So, now that I've described the Krebs cycle, along with the context that it fits into, does that qualify me to discuss biological matters with you, even without a degree in the field? Would it be enough to qualify Larry?

Libro

(I'm not really interested in getting into a debate regarding apologetics and intelligent design -- just asking whether my answer qualifies me. A cool piece of design work, that cellular respiration. I know I could never have come up with it...)

Larry, you can still remain anonymous on this blog...

2008-11-14T10:33:00.000+13:00

Larry, you can still remain anonymous on this blog site, yet answer our questions at the same time.

I may be mistaken, but I've had serious discussions with MANY PhD's in my life, and your comments here just don't bespeak of someone with a great deal of education or reasoning power.

My sincere apologies if my impression is incorrect, and you truly HAVE earned a PhD in one of the biological sciences from a prestigious university – but in all frankness, the shallowness of many of your comments just ring kind of hollow to me.

And what is the Krebs Cycle again?

LOL it just hit me: Maybe Larry's published in a C...

2008-11-13T16:00:00.000+13:00

LOL it just hit me: Maybe Larry's published in a Christian Science journal!!!