Comments on Ambassador Watch: From the original AW: Beware the Anti-Christs!

"...but what I couldn't get was the ones ...

2010-01-07T07:59:44.700+13:00

"...but what I couldn't get was the ones in the Middle Ages who were butchered by Protestants..."

Er, do you mean during the early modern period? Protestantism, via Luther, Calvin, et. al. arose during the Renaissance, which historians neatly class as the beginning of the modern era. Although much Christian-on-Christian persecuation and slaughter has continued on into contemporary times, hasn't it? A valid question, $wiss Banker--who is the martyr??

I was reading the Catholic book of Saints. Most we...

2010-01-06T19:20:17.266+13:00

I was reading the Catholic book of Saints. Most were 'martyrs' dying painful deaths for their Roman cultmasters (who lived very well, like GCI leaders do today).

The early saints suffered under 'pagan' Rome which was fine, but what I couldn't get was the ones in the Middle Ages who were butchered by Protestants. I don't get it, can you be a martyr when you are killed by a Christian who has a different take on the same contradictory 'holy book'? Does that count ?

Uh oh..not gooooood. said... I am no fan of H...

2010-01-06T13:17:06.488+13:00

Uh oh..not gooooood. said...

I am no fan of Henry Makow, but this is a disturbing thought....read it carefully.

Wot, Dennis Diehl and Gavin didn't make the list? I'm sure he's as reliable as Weinland's ghost writer is! Anti-Christs have to be in that club too don't they?

Groucho Marx said "I'd never be a member of any organization who would would have someone like me!" So that leaves out Groucho for sure!

Rowan Williams! Antichrist indeed! It was Rowan ...

2010-01-06T13:09:23.348+13:00

Rowan Williams! Antichrist indeed!

It was Rowan who minced his way on stage with John Cleese and cried sacrilege at Monty Python's Life of Brian movie. He played schoolmaster to John Cleese and Michael Palin - and promptly got scewered by Palin on live British TV.

He saw no humor in the movie. I suspect neither would Ron Weinland!

"Then ask yourself why god doesn't heal a...

2010-01-06T11:51:39.084+13:00

"Then ask yourself why god doesn't heal amputees."

And remember folks, God refuses to heal amputees not most of the time, but EVERY time. He has NEVER answered a single amputee prayer.

Why is it that every single "miracle" is either incredibly subjective and/ or unverifiable, or something that can be rationally explained, even though it may be highly improbable? Why are there no verified miracles that can only be attributed to the supernatural?

Why can God make a brain tumor vanish, but can't replace a leg, or an arm? Why does God gently push motor vehicles over railroad tracks, or send a wind to push someone just as they stray to the edge of the roof, but can never actually levitate a car, or levitate someone who has already fallen?

Answer: Because god doesn't exist.

The Apostate Paul

Gavin, Those Harry Potter books in your possessio...

2010-01-06T10:32:09.137+13:00

Gavin,

Those Harry Potter books in your possession worry me.

Witchcraft,warlocks,wizardry,
thaumaturgy and all that sort of thing.

Cheers,

Jorgheinz

Uh oh....http://www.henrymakow.com/australian_sata...

2010-01-06T02:46:24.054+13:00

Uh oh....http://www.henrymakow.com/australian_satanist_exposes_wo.html

I am no fan of Henry Makow, but this is a disturbing thought....read it carefully.

'The US-based "Church of Satan" was the public face of "an ancient body whose very existence had never before been imagined." He lists as "influential members" J.P. Morgan, Drs. James McDonald and Rene Hardy, the Kennedy's (including Jackie), Irving Berlin, Groucho Marx, Elvis Presley, Garner Ted Armstrong, Sammy Davis Jr., Ronald Reagan, Edward Heath, Thomas Plantard de St Claire and the Bushes. He later mentions Stephen Spielberg, George Lucas and Gerald Ford as members.'

I am not anti-Christ or Jesus. I am dis-illusione...

2010-01-06T02:36:42.804+13:00

I am not anti-Christ or Jesus.

I am dis-illusioned and who wants illusions?

I suspect Dr. Hoeh, finding himself in the broiler...

2010-01-06T02:25:29.672+13:00

I suspect Dr. Hoeh, finding himself in the broiler of WCG opted emotionally for the Buddhism he seemed to to find some personal peace in. That's what I did even as a minister by first reading The Way of the Peaceful Warrior and then The Tao of Pooh. Simple books lead to profound perspectives.

John Spong, hated by the conservative Episcopalian and loved by the liberal was in touch with me when I was reading Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism. That book freed me from the questions and contradictions of the Gospels I had noticed in life but had not explanation for. John thanked me for using his material, especially the Birth Narrative material coupled with Raymond Brown's, Birth and Death of the Messiah tomes, and then added "however you won't survive."

I was terminated six months
later..ha. He knew...

I imagine if we were somehow able to get a list of books that COG ministers have read on the origins, theology, contradictions , hisotry etc of the Bible it would hover right around zero.

I think any book a WCGracie Minister reads has to promote the polytheism of the Triune God in a way that makes you end up saying..."huh?" That means it is spot on....

Haven't heard from Darrel in a long time but in the short time I was in touch with him, he is a formidable foe to a fundamentalist.

If you haven't enjoyed a romp through Archarya S and her series on The Suns of God etc, where she shows the journey of the SUN through the 12 signs of the zodiac is identical to the one year journed of the SON with his 12 students, enjoy! Everytime you see the sunrise, venus rise or arrive at at a solstice or equinox, you'll think very differently about the origins of the Christian religion and the shenannagans of the church as well. Or not....:)

I remember going to the Fuller Theological Lib. near AC, as a student, to read and found an excellent book on the stories surrounding Jesus birth and how fighting the probable fact of being born of fornication etc was important for the church to counter...thus the birth narratives werre inserted.

Someone was knocking on my head and I didn't answer at that time. I guess when the student is ready, the teacher will come.

"If you want a swift kick in your Christian c...

2010-01-05T22:25:19.656+13:00

"If you want a swift kick in your Christian comfort zone, this is the place to start."

I think the Bible is a good place to start. Go back and read the promises of answered prayer...

"And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, `Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. "And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive." (Matthew 21:21-22 NAS)"

I've tried this one out, my prayers for many years were earnest and I believed, yet they weren't answered.

Don't squirm and qualify your reaction to my statement with nonsense about God's will. Scroll up, reread the promise.

Then ask yourself why god doesn't heal amputees. Why are all the healings we hear about also quite possibly not healings.

Show me some limb regeneration.

How's that christian comfort zone now?