Comments on Ambassador Watch: Bruce Hales and Joe Tkach

"Wow...That looks just like the Painful Truth webs...

2008-11-09T16:07:00.000+13:00

"Wow...That looks just like the Painful Truth website!"

Yup --- they even have a suicides page, too. :-[

Richard,Now that you mention it, I remember those ...

2008-11-09T16:01:00.000+13:00

Richard,

Now that you mention it, I remember those injunctions from the pulpit as well. I even remember a few of the more elderly members of the congregation being post-humously congratulated, and pretty much guaranteed a place in the first resurrection.

Definitely not a good return on their investment, that.

Purple Hymn said, "Junior has only ONE reason to k...

2008-11-07T13:47:00.000+13:00

Purple Hymn said, "Junior has only ONE reason to keep the WCG going, and that's the cold hard cash that's still lining his pockets."

MY COMMENT - I think most rational people who experienced the WCG for any length of time know that you are correct.

Let's not forget all those estates that are willed to the WCG from many years ago. Every year that I was involved, HQ legal always gave Church members the instructions on how to leave their estates to the Church.

What a scam.

Richard

"Its not the money thats the main reason these fol...

2008-11-06T14:14:00.000+13:00

"Its not the money thats the main reason these folks stay"

"the folks" in question are Junior and Bruce Hales. Junior has only ONE reason to keep the WCG going, and that's the cold hard cash that's still lining his pockets.

You disagree? Fine. We disagree. Leave it there.

But let me just say being a ex member myself.........

2008-11-06T13:58:00.000+13:00

But let me just say being a ex member myself.......

How long were you in? I was born, raised and when I left I was in my twenties! I think that is enough time to realize that is what the main goal of the "leaders" were after. Sure there are other consequences from being involved with that cult and it's offshoots but the main objective is to get all the money they can!!!!!!

Big Jim ,if you absolutely need a piece of paper t...

2008-11-06T02:32:00.000+13:00

Big Jim ,if you absolutely need a piece of paper to find a job then i suggest it shows what a hopeless case you are .

If you think showing your name on the net makes you any stronger than not using one .I ask what planet are you on its the net man ,get a grip on it! its not like me using a name means we will be shaking hands .You sound like a school boy saying "ive signed my name on my school essay ! so im tough "

If red necks like you dont like anon points of view then bitch to the blog owner or your poor wife, she`s probably quite used to it .

I`ll leave you thinking its all to do with the money no skin off my nose if you wish to always be ignorant.

But let me just say being a ex member myself and knowing quite a few others.I can promise you that your spew is from regions where the sun never shines.

Don't post a bunch of spew if you don't announce y...

2008-11-05T16:23:00.000+13:00

Don't post a bunch of spew if you don't announce yourself. Hiding behind anonymous is weak. If a lie is told enough then one starts to beleive it. Everything goes back to the "money" All Joe the "Apostle" knows is WCG way of life, he grew up in it. But since the teachings of A.C. are worthless how can one find a "real" job with that piece of shit paper.

About family. What about the family you were forced to leave behind in the beginning and then have to come back years later and admit how wrong you were to beleive such assinine bullshit the Croooks in Pasadena were saying was the "truth" (sic)

Purple Hymnal says:"Bullshit. That is not onl...

2008-11-04T21:58:00.000+13:00

Purple Hymnal says:"Bullshit. That is not only the main reason, it is the ONLY reason.

Follow the money."

The uneducated voice of a fool !.

Its not the money thats the main reason these folks stay ,its because of the threat of total excommunication between family .See here for instance http://peebs.net/Community/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2065

Thats why support groups are formed http://peebs.net/Community/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=1607

After all Getting a job and obtaining money in the outside world is really not such a great problem is it!.

But losing your family and the only support group you have (ever) known by seperation and (total) excommunication is not .Its a problem thats not just a matter of not seeing or talking to your family and friends for a few weeks or months ,no it amounts to a life sentence where you are treated as if physically dead ! .

Yes thats exactly how you are treated as DEAD!, unless you agree to yield repent and return .

These people are mostly trapped through fear of a cult that divides family ,as a tool for control.

That you suggest "That is not only the main reason, it is the ONLY reason.

Follow the money."

Only shows your total ignorance ! on this subject.

Do some research first before you spout bullshit

"Following money is not the main reason."Bullshit....

2008-11-04T15:51:00.000+13:00

"Following money is not the main reason."

Bullshit. That is not only the main reason, it is the ONLY reason.

Follow the money.

Wow...That looks just like the Painful Truth websi...

2008-11-04T14:50:00.000+13:00

Wow...That looks just like the Painful Truth website!

Purple hymnal add retain your family also to both ...

2008-11-04T14:08:00.000+13:00

Purple hymnal add retain your family also to both your answers .Following money is not the main reason .

It is not a "church" that doesn't give the "church...

2008-11-04T09:07:00.000+13:00

It is not a "church" that doesn't give the "church" a say so in matters concerning their "church". What it is, rather, is a dictatorship. The leader dictates and the "church" is his ship coming in.

"Why live in a medieval fiefdom when you can atten...

2008-11-03T22:42:00.000+13:00

"Why live in a medieval fiefdom when you can attend a church where you and your family can play a meaningful role?"

Follow the money.

"Why would you sell your kids into second-class citizenship in a church that will permit no say in the direction that church will take over the course of their lifetimes?"

Follow the money.

That is all.